Who invented the Emmons volume pedal?
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Who invented the Emmons volume pedal?
No doubt this has been covered here previously, however a quick search did not reveal the answer. Was it Buddy? Ron? or somebody else? Was it ever patented? Just curious…
Cass probably knows. And Ernie in Brainerd.
Cass probably knows. And Ernie in Brainerd.
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we get that, jack. so who made the first aluminum framed pedal for the emmons?.... you?... ron, sr?
i would guess ron.
then they changed from the drop pin model to the fixed pin model. ron again, with buddy's idea?
what was the original 'string' made out of?
was buddy smart enough to wind the string in the correct direction the first time he had to change one?
did buddy ever have a steel guitar tech on the road? or did he just take care of his own business as most people have to?
i would guess ron.
then they changed from the drop pin model to the fixed pin model. ron again, with buddy's idea?
what was the original 'string' made out of?
was buddy smart enough to wind the string in the correct direction the first time he had to change one?
did buddy ever have a steel guitar tech on the road? or did he just take care of his own business as most people have to?
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Good question, Jack. To me "concept" would refer to identification of a problem and offering a solution; in this case, dealing with an outboard volume pedal is a PITA, and attaching it to the pedal board is the solution.Jack Strayhorn wrote:In any concept or design, does concept mean mere mention of an idea or any working drawings or models?
The "design" is how to achieve the solution by a creating something that works. I think Big Ron came up with some great and historic designs, fer sure, and that could easily be one of his.
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I concur. I also believe that Buddy once mentioned the "tilt legs" were his idea, too.Herb Steiner wrote:The concept certainly belongs to Buddy, if not the specific design.
As to what was used as the first "string" on the volume pedal, I'm going to take a wild guess...and say that it was very likely... a piece of string!
I own one, of course, but I'm not a fan of the design as everything is far too "exposed" to dirt, damage, and the elements.
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same piece Dave Easley used....a piece of string!
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Dave Easley...
Gary Lee Gimble wrote:same piece Dave Easley used....a piece of string!
Jack, I'm sorry about hijacking your post, but I couldn't resist sharing this photo I took of Dave in '08 in St. Louis in the Jazz Room.
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2008 indeed, I was front and center to witness said string. And guess what Chris, he wasn't playN any L R diity either... I couldn't resist...oh, i'd like to extend one hijacked thread apology as well...but, strings are strings as you can clearly see
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"fine" as it may be....for sure thou, not a hindrance to his picN expertise
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I never new "tilt legs" were Emmons Idea, Donny. I learned something new today. I always thought those Bigsby straight legs were ugly as sin. Tilt legs also spread the load out I suppose.
Interesting concerning the attached Emmons pedal - Budy in his early days used to place the pedal outside the legs ironically I notice in a few photos from the fifties.
Interesting concerning the attached Emmons pedal - Budy in his early days used to place the pedal outside the legs ironically I notice in a few photos from the fifties.
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Bigsbys had angled or tilted legs on the cabinets that were narrow. But on a wider cabinet, such as a triple or quad, angling the front legs would place the pedals farther away from the player -- especially one standing or sitting on a high bar stool. Also, angling the legs of a triple or a quad just makes the footprint unnecessarily broad.Jim Pitman wrote:I never new "tilt legs" were Emmons Idea, Donny. I learned something new today. I always thought those Bigsby straight legs were ugly as sin. .
Bigsby had tilted" legs before Buddy Emmons (Buddie, actually) worked with Shot Jackson to make the first Sho-Buds, and DALAND had some angled legs in August 1954 -- those were made by Don Davis, Sugarfoot Garland and Shot Jackson. I have a photo somewhere of Buddie Emmons sitting behind his Bigsby and next to him is a DALAND with its spread legs.
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Pete Martinez told me he had a D-8, one that PAB built soon after Joaquin's console, that the case became the support system, like Travis' guitar.
Sadly, that guitar was stolen about 20 years ago and Pete lost all interest in playing steel, even though he had Fenders to use if he wanted to.
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Here is the photo of Buddie Emmons sitting behind his Bigsby and next to the 1954 DALAND with tilted or splayed legs.
Do you think Emmons had the same reaction to what was sitting next to him as Sophia Loren had sitting next to Jane Mansfield?
Do you think Emmons had the same reaction to what was sitting next to him as Sophia Loren had sitting next to Jane Mansfield?
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