Ooh, what does this lever do?
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- Dave Stagner
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Ooh, what does this lever do?
My ZB D10 has an aftermarket left knee vertical lever that wasn’t installed properly and isn’t connected to anything. Last night, I did some diagnosis and think I understand what’s wrong with it, and how to fix it.
The question is, what to do with this lever? It’s currently set up Day style on the E9 neck. LKL is E-D#, LKR is E-F. RKL is F#-G, RKR is D#-D. What would be useful/interesting for LKV? Maybe B-Bb? Other ideas?
The question is, what to do with this lever? It’s currently set up Day style on the E9 neck. LKL is E-D#, LKR is E-F. RKL is F#-G, RKR is D#-D. What would be useful/interesting for LKV? Maybe B-Bb? Other ideas?
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1967 ZB D-10
Recording King lap steel with Certano benders
1967 ZB D-10
Recording King lap steel with Certano benders
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The B to Bb change is an option. But,can a ZB do split tuning? Granted, there are other uses for it other than splitting the A pedal. When I had my 2 ZBs in the 1970s, I don't think splits were common, if used at all.
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Oh, that's a cool idea! I haven't (yet) built any scale technique around those strings anyway, so the only time I use them is with knees, for minors or dominant sevenths. A V-I double stop up there could be really nifty.Fred Treece wrote:String 1 ++ and
String 2 +
I have this change on LKR, and F#>G on the vertical. Yours would just be the reverse. Both changes get a lot of use.
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Recording King lap steel with Certano benders
1967 ZB D-10
Recording King lap steel with Certano benders
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I have always found half step changes best for the vertical. I tried the F# to G# on the vertical on my Carter, and it didn't work well. Travel was too long. I put it back to just raising my F# strings to G. I have the F# to G# (along with 2nd string to E, and 6th string to F#) on my RKR. The vertical is best for changes you use along with pedal changes where you can get better leverage on the vertical lever.Fred Treece wrote:Good point, Chris. Maybe too long for a vertical.
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Re: ZBs....
I'm sure they didn't accommodate splits. On my first D10, I had the B to Bb lower and used it regularly with my A pedal - a perfect C.
I assumed all steels did that as if by magic. I swapped it for a Pro 111 and was shocked that the combination didn't work. It was then I learned that I had just been lucky with the ZB.
I'm sure they didn't accommodate splits. On my first D10, I had the B to Bb lower and used it regularly with my A pedal - a perfect C.
I assumed all steels did that as if by magic. I swapped it for a Pro 111 and was shocked that the combination didn't work. It was then I learned that I had just been lucky with the ZB.
Roger Rettig - Emmons D10
(8+9: 'Day' pedals) Williams SD-12 (D13th: 8+6), Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and several old Martins.
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(8+9: 'Day' pedals) Williams SD-12 (D13th: 8+6), Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and several old Martins.
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