P/P With LeGrande Pedals

Glenn Suchan · Post by **Glenn Suchan** » 1 Oct 2023 11:10 am

A question for anyone with true (maybe first-hand) knowledge of the Emmons Company, from the mid to late 1970's:

According to serial number records, my Emmons D10 P/P was made in December 1977 (s/n 2411 D) and it has the "keystone" Kluson tuning keys and black LeGrande pedals. I'm not the original owner, so I don't know if the guitar came with that style of pedals or if a previous owner modified it. Did the Emmons Company ever put LeGrande pedals on P/P's before the 1980's when the LeGrande guitar was introduced?

Keep on picking'!
Glenn

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Oct 2023 8:12 am

The later model p/p's had the LeGrande style pedals, I have one.
Erv

Randy Cook · Post by **Randy Cook** » 2 Oct 2023 11:40 am

My P/P has a serial number of 0199D...that is not like any of the numbers I have reviewed here on the forum. Along those same lines, my guitar has black LeGrande style pedals.
Can anyone address the serial number issue? Can the pedal style be used to help determine the year for my guitar?

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 3 Oct 2023 11:52 am

Usually, the push pulls with Legrand style pedals, were made around early to late 80’s. However, i understand that they were offered either way. Also, if they are 70’s guitars with Legrand pedals, someone could have changed them out. I think some models were interchangeable. And Randy, ive never seen a serial numer like that. Are you sure you can read it good? Is the zero good and plain? Was thinking maybe it could be a 2 and was miss stamped.

Mike Vallandigham · Post by **Mike Vallandigham** » 4 Oct 2023 12:12 pm

Randy, once thy went to making the first LeGrande guitars, the serial number of remaining PPs took the funky format.

I have 6413 (without the D) and it was shipped in late 1981.
Mine sure has the black LeGrande pedals.

I think the serials were taken from the invoice numbers.

Randy Cook · Post by **Randy Cook** » 10 Oct 2023 10:05 am

This is the strange serial number on my D-10 Push Pull 0199

Randy Cook · Post by **Randy Cook** » 10 Oct 2023 10:17 am

I have a pic but I do not know how to send it to the Forum

Mike Vallandigham · Post by **Mike Vallandigham** » 10 Oct 2023 12:04 pm

When you make a post, there's a button "upload picture"

You select the photo "choose file" from your computer, say "send"
Also tell it to insert as a picture, not a link.

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