So, tell me about B->Bb...
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- Steve Lipsey
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So, tell me about B->Bb...
I've always had E->F# on my LKV, recommended by our dear b0b long ago, a nice alt-country change, open->AB->AB+LKV->AB->open, that is smoother than AB<->BC<AB
Other than a nice pedals down minor and some diminished stuff, what do you get from an LKV that does B to Bb?
Thanks!
Other than a nice pedals down minor and some diminished stuff, what do you get from an LKV that does B to Bb?
Thanks!
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Hi Steve. Along with what the others said, from your AB position, you can move up one fret, raise Es, keep A pedal down and release B pedal. It gives you the same 6m cord that you currently get in the AB position but one fret up. I use this a lot to have a smoother movement for 1 to 6m instead of moving feet from AB to BC.
Another good use is to get a 7#9 chord by lowering Bs when pressing B pedal and lowering 2 and 9 to C#. Do this cord when you are two frets down from open position. All 10 strings make the chord. I use this to play the 6 chord 7#9 in Nightlife at the AB 1 chord position.
Also can use by itself to get flat 5th chord ( also used in Nightlife.
Another good use is to get a 7#9 chord by lowering Bs when pressing B pedal and lowering 2 and 9 to C#. Do this cord when you are two frets down from open position. All 10 strings make the chord. I use this to play the 6 chord 7#9 in Nightlife at the AB 1 chord position.
Also can use by itself to get flat 5th chord ( also used in Nightlife.
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I use the B to Bb as a split tuning to get full sounding diminished chords like this:
Tab 14
Tab 651
Note that the whole band does not have to play the diminished chord. It is just used in passing. Tab 651 also shows the 7b5 chord in sequence.
You can also use the Bb split tuning to emulate a 1/2 A pedal so with that and pedal B 3 frets up for the open position you get a plethora of chords and note sequences:
Tab 533
Tabs for these are on this page along with examples of the 7b9 chord and many others:
https://www.gregcutshaw.com/C6th%20On%2 ... 0E9th.html
Tab 14
Tab 651
Note that the whole band does not have to play the diminished chord. It is just used in passing. Tab 651 also shows the 7b5 chord in sequence.
You can also use the Bb split tuning to emulate a 1/2 A pedal so with that and pedal B 3 frets up for the open position you get a plethora of chords and note sequences:
Tab 533
Tabs for these are on this page along with examples of the 7b9 chord and many others:
https://www.gregcutshaw.com/C6th%20On%2 ... 0E9th.html
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Like Fred, I lower string 5 to Bb on a pedal, P4, next to my A pedal (I am a Day player). But I don't really split it A. I use it like pedal 5 on the C neck. On C6 strings 2,3 & 5 lowered to F#, you get that same movement and chord on E9 strings 3, 4, & 5 lowered to Bb. It gives a partial two-ninth chord with no root. Nice change moving from a no pedals E chord to F#9. Of course we do have the roots for that chord on strings 1 & 7.
The reason I don't split is that I am good at half-pedaling the A pedal, and playing both pedals to split comes real close to being in tune on my guitar.
The reason I don't split is that I am good at half-pedaling the A pedal, and playing both pedals to split comes real close to being in tune on my guitar.
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Bunches and bunches of info in this previous discussion.
Be sure to read all the links that are provided by Dave.
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=201911
~Lee
Be sure to read all the links that are provided by Dave.
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=201911
~Lee
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thanks all! Great food for thought...
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