Interesting spring locations on push-pull lowers.
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- Tommy Detamore
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Interesting spring locations on push-pull lowers.
I took this guitar in to work on and it has many of the shock springs for the lowers on the ends of the rods near the changer fingers. Aside from the possibility that in operation a rod might interfere with a raise finger, I can’t see any other disadvantages to this method. And the advantages are that the springs are easy to get to and adjust and change as necessary.
Anybody else out there that has seen this on a push-pull? Wondering who might have come up with this method?
Anybody else out there that has seen this on a push-pull? Wondering who might have come up with this method?
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Under side
Tommy could you please post pictures of the complete underside. Very interesting setup.
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Ah yes Clem! I had a vague recollection of seeing this somewhere. I had the Bobbe Seymour PP video once and I thought maybe I had seen it on there. Thanks Andy!
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Interesting. I can't think of a downside.
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Why just on the c-6 neck
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It’s only on the C6th because it’s too cramped on the 3rd string lower and the 4th lower is there because it’s just easier to get to. I don’t think it’s a good idea to do this on lowers that need longer shock springs. And doing this doesn’t make it stiffer it has no effect on playability. But I’m not an expert, I’m only going by what Clem does on his video and the few times I’ve talked to him on the phone….he’s good people. If you own a push pull, you’ve got to get his video and reprint of the emmons instruction manual he sells on the ebay channel.
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You are so right Andy! Clem has been such a great help to me over the years. And I so enjoy his teaching materials. He's just a jewel!
BTW the 8th and 9th string lowers on E9 have the springs near the changer. Maybe the 6th as well, it's hard to see in the pic.
BTW the 8th and 9th string lowers on E9 have the springs near the changer. Maybe the 6th as well, it's hard to see in the pic.
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Hmmmmm, very interesting. I’ve looked and looked and can’t imagine any advantage to this since there are already shock springs up by bell crank. Tommy, does it change the feel on the lowers? I can’t see any disadvantage to it either other than little more trouble to install. I have seen this before somewhere and didn’t think much about it at the time.
I can’t see rest of guitar but will to bet there are no compression springs by bell cranks. Then I could see how these would be useful. If there are compression springs by bell cranks, then these by changer just really wouldn’t help.
I can’t see rest of guitar but will to bet there are no compression springs by bell cranks. Then I could see how these would be useful. If there are compression springs by bell cranks, then these by changer just really wouldn’t help.
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