Pedal tension on C pedal pulling three plain strings….
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Pedal tension on C pedal pulling three plain strings….
If on a MODERN pedal guitar, I were to have my C pedal work double duty, and pull 4 and 5 one full step on E9 (the typical C pedal change) and ALSO pull 4 on C6 a full step as well, would that cause any issue? I know a lot of players now a days pull 8 on E9 a full step on the C pedal… would pulling three plain strings instead be any more problematic or inadvisable?
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The concept is ingenious, having the 3rd pedal double as an old-fashioned P4. It would obviously be stiffer than a dedicated P4, but to find out how much I guess you'd just have to try it.
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Re: Pedal tension on C pedal pulling three plain...
Chris, it depends on what extra string you pull and how far, the setup of the pulls and if you have a guitar that has easy action. You can do more if you lengthen the travel on strings 4 and 5 you might not even notice a plain string raising a whole tone.Chris Scruggs wrote:If on a MODERN pedal guitar, I were to have my C pedal work double duty, and pull 4 and 5 one full step on E9 (the typical C pedal change) and ALSO pull 4 on C6 a full step as well, would that cause any issue? I know a lot of players now a days pull 8 on E9 a full step on the C pedal… would pulling three plain strings instead be any more problematic or inadvisable?
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On the Franklin I had, I didn't have 3 pulls on the "C" pedal, but there were C6th pedals with 3 and 4 pulls and didn't notice any difference from pedals with 2 pulls.
I also had two knee levers with 3 pulls on E9th and 1 on C6th (both RKL and RKR). Very small difference from the LKL and LKR that only had 2 pulls on each.
I also had two knee levers with 3 pulls on E9th and 1 on C6th (both RKL and RKR). Very small difference from the LKL and LKR that only had 2 pulls on each.
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Yes - Regardless of the pull train adjustment you will still have to accept a longer travel to reduce the pull force (stiffness). Hard to get around physics. Another point; it is not reasonable to compare movements on different strings as the thinner the gauge more force is required. It is easier to pull a wound string too.Jim Palenscar wrote:It would certainly be stiffer however that can be mitigated by lowering the pullrod(s)in the bellcrank(s)(and/or repositioning the pull rods in the changer hole furthest from the axle)and lengthening the travel. Most modern guitars can handle this.
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