What brand is this PSG ??

Paul Wade · Post by **Paul Wade** » 1 Jun 2021 3:37 am

Looks like a shobud changer?? Could it be a
Marlen...
https://www.musicgoround.com/product/40 ... edal-steel

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Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 1 Jun 2021 4:38 am

That is an old Marlen that started out as a pull/release. Someone put the Sho-Bud changer on, and changed the undercarriage and pickup. It probably sounds pretty good.

Dan Kelly · Post by **Dan Kelly** » 1 Jun 2021 10:45 am

WOW! $500.00 for shipping! MAN, they really want a local pick up!

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 1 Jun 2021 12:14 pm

Stay away from Music Go Round. They are a complete rip-off. Look at the outrageous shipping charges they charge. I wouldn't trust them at all. I ordered something from them before. Can't remember what right now, but it didn't work. They don't stand behind their sales.

Steven Hudson · Post by **Steven Hudson** » 3 Jun 2021 8:14 am

I would stay away from Music Go Round also. I believe that is a Marrs fretboard. May be a Marrs or a Sho-bud that Marrs upgraded. Marlen used musical notes for fretboard and I haven't seen that inlay on a Marlen.

Jerry Van Hoose · Post by **Jerry Van Hoose** » 3 Jun 2021 9:01 am

Itâ€™s a Marlen cabinet. I had the exact same inlay and itâ€™s configuration on a new, D-10 Marlen that I picked up from Leonard Stadler in the late 60â€™s. However, my end plates had straight edges, unlike the cutaway design as shown that was a little earlier. He had both end plate designs whenever my guitar was built, probably during a changeover/update period. Mine was a pull release and someone has converted this one to all pull with a Sho~Bud changer. Note: Marlen fretboards had musical note designs/markings.

Steven Hudson · Post by **Steven Hudson** » 4 Jun 2021 10:18 am

Jerry. You're right. Those are the end plates that were used in the mid 60's. I haven't seen that inlay before. I read on a forum thread that Duane Marrs used to upgrade older Sho-buds with his own changer after he left Sho-bud. I wonder if he could have put a new changer and worked on the undercarriage.

Jerry Van Hoose · Post by **Jerry Van Hoose** » 4 Jun 2021 10:56 am

That cabinet is exactly like my Marlen from the late 60â€™s, same two-tone color and inlay. Itâ€™s been a long time but if I remember correctly, I called to order a guitar and Leonard told me he had just finished one and the buyer had changed their mind for some reason unknown to me. So, I drove down there and picked it up. I had never seen that inlay design prior to that day and certainly not in that configuration on the top as well as the aprons. Iâ€™ve searched for my old D-10 Marlen for years but never have found it, eventually gave up. If not for the end plate design on the guitar, I would think that is possibly how mine ended up. My Marlen was stolen in Ashland, KY in 1978 but luckily, the police found it and I got it back. I foolishly sold it about a year later to someone in Huntington, WV. Iâ€™m sure that guitar began life as a D-10. It could very well be Duaneâ€™s work given the Sho~Bud changer and Marrs fretboard. Either way, I would think that guitar is capable of producing a great tone in the hands of a good player. Guitars like this one interest me, would like to know itâ€™s history.

Paul Wade · Post by **Paul Wade** » 4 Jun 2021 2:33 pm

Jerry
I would contact the store and see if that was your guitar. I don't know it ended up in Wisconsin but you never know I can investigate for you I know slot of players up north

P.w

Jerry Van Hoose · Post by **Jerry Van Hoose** » 4 Jun 2021 2:53 pm

Paul, thank you however, the police found and returned the Marlen to me and I sold it about a year later to someone in Huntington, WV. Thatâ€™s in the tri-state area of KY, WV & OH. It most likely remained in one of those states. I would have liked to purchase it back but it never surfaced again.

Patrick Huey · Post by **Patrick Huey** » 8 Jun 2021 6:28 am

They would have an easier time selling it if they posted pics of the undercarriage mechanics

Steven Hudson · Post by **Steven Hudson** » 8 Jun 2021 9:58 am

Jerry

Thanks for the cool story. It would be nice to know the history. You mentioning Leonards store caused a nice memory.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 9 Jun 2021 5:39 am

Patrick Huey wrote:They would have an easier time selling it if they posted pics of the undercarriage mechanics

Not really, as those early models were the worst Marlens. The cross-shafts were too skinny, and the plastic bearings Leonard used were about the cheapest you could buy. This was also the era when Leonard did a lot of his work with files and hacksaws, so some of the mechanical parts are rather crudely made and irregular.

In short, this isn't a good 'un to own.

Patrick Huey · Post by **Patrick Huey** » 16 Jun 2021 7:20 am

Donny Hinson wrote:
Patrick Huey wrote:They would have an easier time selling it if they posted pics of the undercarriage mechanics
Not really, as those early models were the worst Marlens. The cross-shafts were too skinny, and the plastic bearings Leonard used were about the cheapest you could buy. This was also the era when Leonard did a lot of his work with files and hacksaws, so some of the mechanical parts are rather crudely made and irregular.

In short, this isn't a good 'un to own.

Danny, wow thanks for the info. Good that prospective buyers know that. I did see that they have since posted photos of the undercarriage. It would be good if you could take a glance and see if thatâ€™s the case as I am not very steel parts savy couldnâ€™t tell much one way or another.

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 16 Jun 2021 7:37 am

There are pictures of the undercarriage - not great ones, but if you scroll the pictures to the right, you'll see them.

Patrick Huey · Post by **Patrick Huey** » 16 Jun 2021 1:24 pm

Dave Mudgett wrote:There are pictures of the undercarriage - not great ones, but if you scroll the pictures to the right, you'll see them.

Yes, I sent them a message asking them to add pics of the underside last week and they have since added those you mentioned, Dave. From what I could see they seem to be poor quality photos. Possible poor quality because the undercarriage looks a little raunchy to me....dirty needs cleaning something lol good quality photos would highlight a number of issues possibly?