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Phil Ajjarapu

 

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Portland, via Austin, TX via Chicago
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 10:05 am    
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Because it doesn't look hex on the outside.

Uh, what do I do? [img]
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 10:31 am    
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Takes a Allen wrench too slip in the hole I’m thinking.
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Phil Ajjarapu

 

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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 10:34 am    
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Yeah I think you're right. Time to buy a set.
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Rich Upright


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 1:10 pm    
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What is a "running wrench"?
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 1:16 pm    
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Just a slip of the finger.
I'm sure he meant "tuning" wrench. Very Happy
Erv
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Phil Ajjarapu

 

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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 1:33 pm    
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Stupid autocorrect strikes again. That's what you get for posting on a phone, Phil.
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 2:50 pm     Excel tuning nuts
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Remember Excels are metric. You can also order a nice tuning tool from the factory.

You can replace all the tuning nuts with the new type that has hex on the outside and the inside.
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Phil Ajjarapu

 

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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 4:34 pm    
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Thanks Marvin, I appreciate it!
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 4:54 pm    
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I find that my Williams wrench (3/16" = 4.8mm) will fit my Excel tuning nuts. Not everything Japanese is metric - the leg threads are ½" Whitworth!
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 6:06 pm     Excel
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Yes, some metric is close to SAE, but the tools that come with the guitar are metric and for use with the inside of the nylon tuners.

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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2021 6:24 pm     Excel
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Here is a shot of my Excel, notice the nylon tuners are hex both on the outside and the inside. The nut driver is 5mm for these tuners. A standard size 3/16 such as used for Zum or Emmons will also fit. (but tight) The inside of the tuners are 2.5 mm and a 9/32 will work.


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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2021 12:47 am    
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MORE INFORMATION
From Marvin Born's post with his picture of the Excel tuning nuts, and Larry Allen's picture of wrench to tune an Exel Steel.
Check tuning nuts center hole for hex shape. This would explain their Allen pattern tuning wrench.

Excel may have made a design change to the nut exterior to round, Instead of hex, To give more surface for contact with the changer finger.

With the Allen (Hex) wrench sliding up to near touching the end of the pull rod would cut flex in the nylon tuning nut and allow for more precise tuning.


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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2021 12:52 am    
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Suggestions with incomplete information.

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Larry Allen


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Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2021 11:29 am     Wrench
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FWIW this is the tool that comes with those Excel tuners.

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