Buddy Charleston emmons d-10 ??
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Buddy Charleston emmons d-10 ??
just wondering about buddy's emmons he is playing in this clip. it's got such great tone and i know it has to do also with buddy's playing. but does any one know about this steel also what amp was he playing thru
where is that steel now??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK_qrg4Jz20
p.w
where is that steel now??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK_qrg4Jz20
p.w
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The steel playing is indeed splendid, as is BC's tone.
I hadn't realised that Mr Tubb was so 'pitchy'! Not the genre's greatest singer.
I hadn't realised that Mr Tubb was so 'pitchy'! Not the genre's greatest singer.
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Did Bud Charleston Know Buddy Emmonds?
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This is a great clip. Says this is from 1968, which looks correct. Note the wood-necked Emmons p/p with an apparently covered-up name plate, which I presume has a bolt-on changer like every other wood-necked Emmons p/p I've seen. I have one of Buddy's wood-necked push pulls, red/orange-burst lacquer body but otherwise looks exactly like this. I think the wood-necked bolt-on push pulls I've played have a distinctive tone, I love mine.
I saw ET a number of times, starting in the early-mid 70s. I know he sang flat a lot, but I think even that was not totally consistent - there were times I saw him when he was in good voice. Regardless, I personally love his voice, the word authentic slaps me in the face.
I saw ET a number of times, starting in the early-mid 70s. I know he sang flat a lot, but I think even that was not totally consistent - there were times I saw him when he was in good voice. Regardless, I personally love his voice, the word authentic slaps me in the face.
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He certainly knew of Buddy E, he succeeded Buddy E in the band: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Tubbjohn widgren wrote:Did Bud Charleston Know Buddy Emmonds?
and then he inspired Buddy Cage http://www.thecoolgroove.com/cage.html
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Buddy Charleton’s Tone
I think what set Ernest apart and what makes him so endearing today is, and we agree that he sung flat and sharp, was a myriad of factors: 1. He and the band members dressed like country royalty; and that was what people paid to see. 2. He had the “hottest†band in country music-hands down! 3. He stayed after the show until everyone who asked for an autograph or picture got one. 4. The sincerity of his talent showed through in every song. 6. The price for an Ernest Tubb show was comparatively reasonable to others in the business. 7. And of course, it didn’t hurt to have one of the most popular country t.v shows.
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Love this. And check out that Ampeg fretless scroll bass -- don't see those very often.
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Ugh
Ugh! Never mind...
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worth mentioning this clip was recorded in the late 60s, some 25 years after ET's first big hits... not the best example of the man's singing.
but Ernest himself knew he wasn't a particularly great singer and actually attributed much of his success to the idea that many of his fans liked him because they "could sing it just as good". I'm sure his humility and sense of humor also played a part in his success
the guys look and sound fantastic here. any idea why Buddy C covered up the Emmons logo on his guitar? or what he covered it with?
but Ernest himself knew he wasn't a particularly great singer and actually attributed much of his success to the idea that many of his fans liked him because they "could sing it just as good". I'm sure his humility and sense of humor also played a part in his success
the guys look and sound fantastic here. any idea why Buddy C covered up the Emmons logo on his guitar? or what he covered it with?
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hmmmmm....
who is buddy charleston?
who is buddy charlton?...
who is buddy charlton?...
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Re: Buddy Charleton’s Tone
I agree. And from what I've heard, he had class and was a gentleman. He certainly had style. He had a career that lasted about half a century, a voice that was instantly recognizable, and became a country music legend. And he did it all singing a little off key.David Zornes wrote:I think what set Ernest apart and what makes him so endearing today is, and we agree that he sung flat and sharp, was a myriad of factors: 1. He and the band members dressed like country royalty; and that was what people paid to see. 2. He had the “hottest†band in country music-hands down! 3. He stayed after the show until everyone who asked for an autograph or picture got one. 4. The sincerity of his talent showed through in every song. 6. The price for an Ernest Tubb show was comparatively reasonable to others in the business. 7. And of course, it didn’t hurt to have one of the most popular country t.v shows.
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I didn't mean to ruffle feathers with my criticism of ET's voice. I suppose I need to remember that he was an 'institution' and loved by many.
Growing up in Britain I wasn't aware of him and it wasn't until I became interested in steel guitar and its more highly renowned players that the Troubadours got my attention (for obvious reasons). Therefore my impressions of Ernest are purely a reaction to what I hear. I simply can't enjoy his vocals, as out-of-tune as they are.
George Jones, Lefty, Haggard, Randy Travis? They're another story!
Growing up in Britain I wasn't aware of him and it wasn't until I became interested in steel guitar and its more highly renowned players that the Troubadours got my attention (for obvious reasons). Therefore my impressions of Ernest are purely a reaction to what I hear. I simply can't enjoy his vocals, as out-of-tune as they are.
George Jones, Lefty, Haggard, Randy Travis? They're another story!
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I really preferred Charleton's sound playing Sho~Buds. When he switched to Emmons (which was very near the end of his stint with ET), there was something that was just "missing" from his playing, and he sounded too much like everyone else in Nashville (the many players who were also playing Emmons guitars). After he played the Emmons for awhile, he even said he preferred it, but some (like myself) longed for the old sounds.
I suppose this has something to do with my personal desire for variety. Yes, the Emmons guitars sound great. But like today's ubiquitous crunchy Telecaster, they became overused, and sounded almost trite after awhile. It's sorta like the "hillbilly/southern twang" that all the top country vocalists these days seem to have drifted towards. IMHO, that's one of the reasons that individuality in sound and presentation has really gone downhill. Everything in mainstream country music looks and sounds pretty much the same...and that's by design.
Say what you will about Tubb, Price, Pierce, Owens, and most of the popular country singers of the golden age of country music. There was no mistaking who was singing, and they didn't endeavor to sound alike or copy each other.
I suppose this has something to do with my personal desire for variety. Yes, the Emmons guitars sound great. But like today's ubiquitous crunchy Telecaster, they became overused, and sounded almost trite after awhile. It's sorta like the "hillbilly/southern twang" that all the top country vocalists these days seem to have drifted towards. IMHO, that's one of the reasons that individuality in sound and presentation has really gone downhill. Everything in mainstream country music looks and sounds pretty much the same...and that's by design.
Say what you will about Tubb, Price, Pierce, Owens, and most of the popular country singers of the golden age of country music. There was no mistaking who was singing, and they didn't endeavor to sound alike or copy each other.