Over a dozen years of ZIRC BARS
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Over a dozen years of ZIRC BARS
Another HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON from Ed and Vinh, the ZIRC BAR folk.
GOT ZIRC? IF YOU HAVE TRIED ONE YOU KNOW…
If you haven’t, you don’t. Compare them.
Via USPS with tracking #.
Checks or MO, send to:
ZBARS
1776 Prima Drive
Livermore, CA 94550
Cell: 408-505-5953
Paypal, send to:
ZIRBAR@gmail.com
Available:
INVENTORY 1/28/2013 quantity
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 4 left
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 36
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 37
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0 = all gone!
Both White and black are now US$ 120.00 + S&H.
S&H = US$ 10.00 in the lower 48 states, $20.00 elsewhere.
ADD US$ 5.00 if using PayPal.
Vinh Nguyen handles shipping and $.
I (edpackard@citlink.net) handle backup.
Thank you for your interest.
Edp
GOT ZIRC? IF YOU HAVE TRIED ONE YOU KNOW…
If you haven’t, you don’t. Compare them.
Via USPS with tracking #.
Checks or MO, send to:
ZBARS
1776 Prima Drive
Livermore, CA 94550
Cell: 408-505-5953
Paypal, send to:
ZIRBAR@gmail.com
Available:
INVENTORY 1/28/2013 quantity
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 4 left
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 36
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 37
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0 = all gone!
Both White and black are now US$ 120.00 + S&H.
S&H = US$ 10.00 in the lower 48 states, $20.00 elsewhere.
ADD US$ 5.00 if using PayPal.
Vinh Nguyen handles shipping and $.
I (edpackard@citlink.net) handle backup.
Thank you for your interest.
Edp
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Form, Fit, and Function of BARS
RJ...thanks for the nice words and observations.
To all...What do you want in a BAR?
Feel and Fit:
This covers Weight, Shape, and Size.
These are the users’ choice.
The BAR should fit the hand.
Hard, Smooth, and Abrasion Resistant:
This covers wear, and abuse tolerance.
Hardness is tested by measuring the depth of penetration of a given shape (diamond, sphere, etc.) under a given force. In metals, this will cause a dent…softer = deeper.
Scratch resistance is measured in a similar manner = a shaped point dragged along the surface at a given force…think string wear and/or bar wear = surface change with time.
Joseph Meditz has provided a table of material characteristics for some BAR materials.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... light=bars
Check back…we will show comparative Smoothness data later.
To all...What do you want in a BAR?
Feel and Fit:
This covers Weight, Shape, and Size.
These are the users’ choice.
The BAR should fit the hand.
Hard, Smooth, and Abrasion Resistant:
This covers wear, and abuse tolerance.
Hardness is tested by measuring the depth of penetration of a given shape (diamond, sphere, etc.) under a given force. In metals, this will cause a dent…softer = deeper.
Scratch resistance is measured in a similar manner = a shaped point dragged along the surface at a given force…think string wear and/or bar wear = surface change with time.
Joseph Meditz has provided a table of material characteristics for some BAR materials.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... light=bars
Check back…we will show comparative Smoothness data later.
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Smoothness and hardness of tone bars
Happy Thanksgiving to all the ZIRC bar owners, and to those that do not have one yet.
Smooth is good, and the Zirc is smoother. Compare the next two photos..first is the best chrome on steel brand...second is the ZIRC. These are surface smoothness shots of the two bars.
Smoothness is good...if it lasts. To make it last, the bar material must be hard and scratch resistant (abrasion resistant). The steel bar can be turned without a diamond wheel...the ZIRC needs a diamond tool...you judge re abrasion resistance.
Ordering info above.
Happy BIRD day...Ed & Vinh
Smooth is good, and the Zirc is smoother. Compare the next two photos..first is the best chrome on steel brand...second is the ZIRC. These are surface smoothness shots of the two bars.
Smoothness is good...if it lasts. To make it last, the bar material must be hard and scratch resistant (abrasion resistant). The steel bar can be turned without a diamond wheel...the ZIRC needs a diamond tool...you judge re abrasion resistance.
Ordering info above.
Happy BIRD day...Ed & Vinh
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Zircs for Christmas any one?
For those that might be interested in "what can be done with ZIRC",
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb ... ia+ceramic
Think fingers, nuts, and other such parts.
Zircs for Christmas anyone?...see first post in the thread for how to order.
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb ... ia+ceramic
Think fingers, nuts, and other such parts.
Zircs for Christmas anyone?...see first post in the thread for how to order.
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What is left?
Thanks for the nice words Jon...enjoy.
We are down to 80 ZIRC BARS left. When they are gone, that's all!!!
Sizes, colors, and ordering info are in the first post of this thread.
Thanks for the interest, Edp
We are down to 80 ZIRC BARS left. When they are gone, that's all!!!
Sizes, colors, and ordering info are in the first post of this thread.
Thanks for the interest, Edp
Re: Zirc Bar - Black -
Hi there
Is it possible to order a bar for my 12 string guitar more in line with 7/8 X 3 9/16 ?
I already have a white Zirc bar but I use that with my Emmons 10 string but I also have a Zumsteel U-12 and could use a longer bar?
Please advise,
Billy Woo aka Bronco Billy
Los Angeles, CA
Is it possible to order a bar for my 12 string guitar more in line with 7/8 X 3 9/16 ?
I already have a white Zirc bar but I use that with my Emmons 10 string but I also have a Zumsteel U-12 and could use a longer bar?
Please advise,
Billy Woo aka Bronco Billy
Los Angeles, CA
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ZIRC BAR sizes
Hey Billy,
The only sizes available will be those in the list on the opening post of this thread. The total left is about 80 pcs, in two colors, and two sizes in each color. This comes down to 20 pcs in each category if we divide it up equally.
Soon, someone ordering a specific size and color will be disappointed.
Re other sizes...each size and color required an outlay of about $10,000 each plus stocking, shipping, record keeping etc. hence the sizes were limited by the economics, and the market size for other sizes.
When the present stock is gone, we will do no more. Any takers?
Billy...happy that you like the bar...sorry if a satisfactory size for you 12 string/hand size is not available.
Edp
The only sizes available will be those in the list on the opening post of this thread. The total left is about 80 pcs, in two colors, and two sizes in each color. This comes down to 20 pcs in each category if we divide it up equally.
Soon, someone ordering a specific size and color will be disappointed.
Re other sizes...each size and color required an outlay of about $10,000 each plus stocking, shipping, record keeping etc. hence the sizes were limited by the economics, and the market size for other sizes.
When the present stock is gone, we will do no more. Any takers?
Billy...happy that you like the bar...sorry if a satisfactory size for you 12 string/hand size is not available.
Edp
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Re: Zirc Bar -Yes I'd like to order one
Hi Ed
I saw your reply and thought I'd try anyway I'd like to order a Black 15/16 X 3 + 1/2 Zirc Bar
I can pay by check, paypal or however you prefer?
Please advise and thanks
Billy Woo aka Bronco Billy
p.s. this will complete my matching set of black and white Zirc Bars cuz when they're gone, they're Gone..
I saw your reply and thought I'd try anyway I'd like to order a Black 15/16 X 3 + 1/2 Zirc Bar
I can pay by check, paypal or however you prefer?
Please advise and thanks
Billy Woo aka Bronco Billy
p.s. this will complete my matching set of black and white Zirc Bars cuz when they're gone, they're Gone..
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zirc bars
I'm placing my order for a white 15/16x3+3/8
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Got a black one.....just ordered my second, a white one....GREAT BAR!!!
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2017 MSA LEGEND XL D10, S10, Studio Pro S12 EXE9
Mullen G2, Rittenberry S10, Infinity D10, Zumsteel 8+9
Anderson, Buscarino, Fender, Roman Guitars, Sarno Octal, Revelation Preamps, BJS BARS, Lots of Blackface Fenders!
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BAR count
INVENTORY 1/28/2013 quantity
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 4 left
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 36
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 37
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0 = all gone!
See first post in this thread for ordering info.
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 4 left
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 36
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 37
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0 = all gone!
See first post in this thread for ordering info.
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ZIRC BAR happyness
Stan, and the other happy campers...thanks for the nice words!
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Zirc bar
Ed, I sent money through Paypal. Thanks
Dennis
Dennis
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15/16" white zircs are all gone.
The end of the 15/16" white zirc bars has come = no mas.
Other color/sizes in the list above are still available, but available quantity is falling.
Edp
Other color/sizes in the list above are still available, but available quantity is falling.
Edp
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zirc bar inventory update
George...I am told that you are set.
Available:
INVENTORY 3/27/2013 quantity
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 0
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 31
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 28
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0
TOTAL 59
Both White and black are now US$ 120.00 + S&H.
S&H = US$ 10.00 in the lower 48 states, $20.00 elsewhere.
ADD US$ 5.00 if using PayPal.
Vinh Nguyen handles shipping and $.
I (edpackard@citlink.net) handle backup.
Thank you for your interest.
Edp
Available:
INVENTORY 3/27/2013 quantity
BLACK SIZE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 0
WHITE Size: 7/8" X 3+3/8" 31
BLACK SIZE Size: 15/16" X 3+1/2" 28
WHITE Size: 15/16" X 3+3/8" 0
TOTAL 59
Both White and black are now US$ 120.00 + S&H.
S&H = US$ 10.00 in the lower 48 states, $20.00 elsewhere.
ADD US$ 5.00 if using PayPal.
Vinh Nguyen handles shipping and $.
I (edpackard@citlink.net) handle backup.
Thank you for your interest.
Edp
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