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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 2 May 2009 2:11 pm    
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i'm no expert on this so i'm just kinda thinking out loud so to speak
i have noticed that the pedal rods are always connected by just the end being bent and hooking in a hole , and this is a point of slack so why not make this connection using a clevis ? if the clevis is on the end of a threaded rod then to the guitar it seems a good way to get rid of the slack at the hook end plus it would give another way to adjust the pedal travel.. or am i just plain wrong
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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 2 May 2009 2:29 pm    
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You mean like this?? This way all the pedal rods are the same length so you just pick one up, and clip it in place without having to look for the right one.This is the MSA Milly, hope Reese doesn't mind me posting it...Bill

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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 2 May 2009 2:44 pm    
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WOWIE ... wasn't expecting any thing that fancy but yea
Bill that was what i was talking about, i have always hated the slack caused by the hook and hole method
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Bent Romnes


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London,Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 2 May 2009 5:02 pm    
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Calvin, you are raising a valid point here. But as I see it, there is no slack in the "hook and hole" method when the steel is set up in playing position.
The weight of the pedal and rod takes care of whatever slack there is.

OTOH..that MSA system is really very nice! Just imagine having an adjustment there so all the pedal rods can be the same length!
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Calvin Walley


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colorado city colorado, USA
Post  Posted 2 May 2009 5:42 pm    
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Brent

unless the rod and hole are very tight it creates slack , when the guitar is set up just lightly tap the pedals and listen to the chatter
there might be some that don't have this but all mine have had it . i am sure that MSA in the picture doesn't
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 3 May 2009 9:19 am    
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Calvin, even with the slack out of that area, the slack in other areas would come into play. Tapping the pedal on any steel will cause a bounce (and noise) due to the spring action, and the clearances in the entire pulling train.

Proper setup and adjustment will reduce most of the noises unless there's excessive wear or poor design.
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Benton Allen


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Muscle Shoals, Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2009 10:22 am    
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Donny said,
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Calvin, even with the slack out of that area, the slack in other areas would come into play. Tapping the pedal on any steel will cause a bounce (and noise) due to the spring action, and the clearances in the entire pulling train.


Donny is Right-ON! Remember that there must be a certain amount of slack in the pull train, or your raises and lowers will not function properly. I've seen guys adjust their guitars to eliminate all slack and noise only to end up wondering why their guitar will no longer tune-up and play properly.
Slack is kinda the nature of the beast.

Cheers!
Benton
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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 3 May 2009 11:00 am    
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ok thanks guys

i just always kinda hated that chatter
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Don Brown, Sr.

 

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Post  Posted 3 May 2009 11:23 am    
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Calvin, are you the one who put this one back up on "Youtube"?

Click Here (Url Disabled)

I didn't hear your pedals clunking. Embarassed


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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 3 May 2009 12:50 pm    
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Don

where did that come from?? that account has been deleted as that video should have been

i will be trying to find out who put it back up

thanks a lot

i sent you an e-mail
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Don Brown, Sr.

 

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Post  Posted 3 May 2009 1:02 pm    
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Calvin, it said it was "Fingerpick2007" or something like that. I would suppose that was the name of whomever posted it. I was thinking that must be you?

I wanted you to know, because I remember you saying you took it down. Just a heads up.

Don


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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 3 May 2009 1:41 pm    
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Don

would you please delete that link

it was a BIG mistake on my part
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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 5 May 2009 3:49 pm    
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it took some doing but i contacted you tube and got it removed
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Guitars that i have owned in order are :
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