Emmons SKH Good Or Bad ? I can handle the truth.

Ron Brennan · Post by **Ron Brennan** » 12 Feb 2007 2:26 pm

Everything Mike Archer (SKH Guru) & Bob said above.

When I first contacted Emmons to date my SKH, I mentioned it as an SKH. They hadn't heard that anachronism before. I first learned the term "SKH" here on SGF.

Somewhat chagrined,

I explained the term "SKH" to Mrs. Lashley via e-mail, then she to Ron Lahsley. They now know the term. I expect they were somewhat amused.

That said, they really go by the Serial #, in my case 077L. Mrs. Lashley was extremely helpful and graceful about it.

She readily supplied the information faster than a speeding steel on "Remington Ride" as soon as I supplied the Serial number.

It's best to use the Serial number, found underneath the guitar, at the players side, left hand corner and stamped on the support bracket. TX

Rgds,

Ron

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 12 Feb 2007 3:20 pm

no problem john there on the way
let me know how you like um
god bless
mike

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 12 Feb 2007 3:24 pm

thats very good advice Ron
it makes a difference in the parts for sure
skh use 4 hole bell cranks and the long legrandes use
14 hole bell cranks as on example

Randy Gilliam · Post by **Randy Gilliam** » 12 Feb 2007 6:04 pm

Thanks Ron Mike John and Barry . The Roadee For Our Band Came by And heard Me Play The SKH And Said He Could Not tell The Difference . They both sound Really Good . When I Get the Levers Changed I Will take The SKH out And test It. Thanks for all the Comments. Randy Gilliam.

Tony Glassman · Post by **Tony Glassman** » 17 Sep 2008 4:28 pm

So what is the story with the SKH Legrande guitars? From what I understand they're both the same scale length.

Other than keyhead length what's the difference?

Why did they switch over to the longer keyhead?

Do they truly sound any different from the longer guitars?

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 17 Sep 2008 8:28 pm

now randy, since the deal was already done all you had to do was wait and decide for yourself what it sounded like... but if you really need our back patting and comforting, evidently you've come to the right place. if you can't stand it, i'll take it to the landfill for you.

Randy Gilliam · Post by **Randy Gilliam** » 17 Sep 2008 9:48 pm

Thanks Chris For The Offer, All I got Left Is a 66 D 10 Emmons and a 76 all Wood D 10 At the Moment I am Pretty Happy With them. Chris Do You still Have Your Carter Starter? Great Little Steels. Randy.

Danny Bates · Post by **Danny Bates** » 17 Sep 2008 11:35 pm

Chris, I've already taken a couple of Randy's guitars to my "landfill".

Did anybody besides me, notice that this thread was started on the 4th of Feb. 2007 ???

Since that time, Randy has owned almost every brand of guitar in the world and he now owns 2 push/pull guitars.
Randy, Please tell us about the SKH Emmons that you bought at the beginning of this thread. Inquiring minds want to know.

ps. Randy, Chris owns 2 push/pulls and a Zum now... BTW, That's more that you got!

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 18 Sep 2008 3:12 am

well I cant speak for anyone else

but im still playing my skh emmons

if a person has the bucks to buy and try

other brands I say go for it

so far theres mabe one or 2 that comes close to my steel as far as tone and action

its good if you can wear a steel guitar

if I had the bucks I would most likley buy another

I would like to have a sd-10 skh for weight

reduction on this old back

J Fletcher · Post by **J Fletcher** » 18 Sep 2008 3:58 am

Tony, the SKH steels are about an inch shorter than the newer Emmons guitars. I think they went back to the longer length body to accomodate the number of pedals needed for some D10's...Jerry

George Brown · Post by **George Brown** » 18 Sep 2008 8:09 am

I've got an early 80s D-10 LeGrande SKH that I've had for about 20 years It has really served me well, plays good, sounds good. I was thinking seriously about getting a new guitar, but I've decided to have mine put back in (Like New) condition and change my pickups from Pentads to Stock Emmons, and play it for another 20 years.
George...

Jim Harper · Post by **Jim Harper** » 18 Sep 2008 8:21 am

Good for you George==Jim Harper

Wayne Wallett · Post by **Wayne Wallett** » 18 Sep 2008 8:23 am

Hello Randy,
I bought SKH D10 #015L brand new mid 80's and never had any problems. Better sounding above the 12th fret than my 1970 push-pull and more body all over.
Good Luck,
Wayne

Tony Glassman · Post by **Tony Glassman** » 18 Sep 2008 11:56 am

J Fletcher wrote:Tony, the SKH steels are about an inch shorter than the newer Emmons guitars. I think they went back to the longer length body to accomodate the number of pedals needed for some D10's...Jerry

Thanks....... but, I'm wondering if the SKH's are really any shorter than some of the loaded-up keyless GFI's and Williams' that we see on the forum?

Cliff Kane · Post by **Cliff Kane** » 18 Sep 2008 12:31 pm

I have heard that they have a bit of a cult following. I recal reading somewhere about things people didn't like about them, but I've also read where people think they have an especially good sound.

J Fletcher · Post by **J Fletcher** » 18 Sep 2008 1:38 pm

Another thing about the SKH Emmons, the case is just as big as the longer Emmons guitars. At least mine is. It has a 1" spacer at one end, nicely done looks factory installed, so the guitar doesn't move around. Perhaps later ones had a shorter case, my guitar is 0057L ..Jerry

Randy Gilliam · Post by **Randy Gilliam** » 18 Sep 2008 10:52 pm

Hi Danny , Chris, Seriously The Emmons SKH I Had Sounded Great, Zum steels Are The Best Playing And The Emmons are The Best sounding Just My Opinion .Thanks Randy.

John Lacey · Post by **John Lacey** » 19 Sep 2008 8:18 am

I owned a SKH Emmons for about 15 years and played it professionaly all over the world. It was a reliable guitar with a couple of provisos. The weak link for me was the tuner keys, a bad batch of Sperzels that few others have complained about. They were stiff and notchy, especially on the heavier wound strings. I finally got them replaced by Jim Aycoth, the new owner of Emmons and that did the trick. Over all, the guitar was good, not exceptional and tended to die out after the 12th. fret. I subsequently bought an SD10 Legrande II that played great and sounded good, but none of the allpull guitars I've bought compare to my old '69 PP. It's fun though owning both kinds of guitars and going back and forth between them enjoying both their advantages. I'd still like to get back to an Emmons all-pull doubleneck, still love that tone.

Mike Archer · Post by **Mike Archer** » 19 Sep 2008 10:14 am

I went up to Bryan Adams house yesterday

he worked at emmons building steels for a good number of years

he built the first 200 skh emmons legrandes

as well as who knows how manyPPs he built

he told me that of all the all pull emmons

he likes the skh models the best

mabe he will chime in here and give us the real scoop on the skh steels thanks Mike

DALE WHITENER · Post by **DALE WHITENER** » 19 Sep 2008 4:32 pm

I love the one I got from Bryan(Derby Red #156L)
Plays great and sounds fantastic. I also have a Lashley Legrande and a Zum . My "shorty" doesn't take a back seat to either of them. Thanks to Mike Archer for the heads up when I was looking. I appreciate it my friend.
Dale

Terry Sneed · Post by **Terry Sneed** » 20 Sep 2008 8:18 pm

I had a Rosewood D10 Emmons shorty, with the pentad pickups on it. I think it had the best tone of any
steel I've ever owned. Wish I still had it.

Terry

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