Numbers for pedal rods.....

Mike Kowalik · Post by **Mike Kowalik** » 20 Oct 2007 2:19 pm

Sometime back there was a thread about where to get the little plastic numbers to put on your pedal rods and someone replied that they were actually markers for electrical wiring....there was also a link posted as to where to find these.

I've gone back thru previous posts trying to locate it but can't.

Can someone help me?
Am I even looking in the right section?

John Coffman · Post by **John Coffman** » 20 Oct 2007 3:11 pm

Not sure what was posted. Electrical numbers can be pick up at any electrical supply house or you can order from www.grainger.com this is industrial warehouse. Bradley is a well known brand. I have used staggered black tape or use the printer and cut out the numbers or letters placew on with scott tape.

Michael Douchette · Post by **Michael Douchette** » 20 Oct 2007 3:45 pm

Those little numbers are hard to see, and impossible in the dark. What a lot of us do is take tape (I use 1" gaff, black) and while the guitar is assembled, we take short pieces of it and wrap them around the pedal rods in a descending diagonal line, left to right. Makes it easy to put it together in darkness, too.

Butch Lowman · Post by **Butch Lowman** » 20 Oct 2007 4:23 pm

I had no luck with anything staying usable and not getting sticky from the tape until I took white heat shrink tubing and cut it into 1/8 " sections,slipped the correct number on the rod and shrunk them with a heat gun.

Butch lowman

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 20 Oct 2007 10:16 pm

Use fingernail polish,put 1 mark on number one rod,2 marks on rod 2,etc,don't you know.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 21 Oct 2007 6:33 am

I get mine from Bill Rudolph who builds the Williams Guitars.

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 21 Oct 2007 8:05 am

I file small little grooves across the rod as close to the "hook" end as possible,,,one for 1st pedal,,,2 for 2nd pedal,,etc. Very easy to "read" with a thumbnail in the dark,,,,

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 21 Oct 2007 8:11 am

I use a Brother P Touch labeler with white tape and black numbers and wrap them around the "head" (sliding part) of the couplers. They can be seen in fairly low light.

Tommy Allison · Post by **Tommy Allison** » 21 Oct 2007 9:05 am

Several months ago I asked Tom Palmer of D2F covers to make me a separate pouch for pedal rods. Just remove them from the guitar and reinstall them in the same order left to right or right to left each time and you cuold do it in the dark.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 21 Oct 2007 9:37 am

I posted the topic in 'Wanted to Buy'. I couldn't find the electrical rings in single quantities. I ended up buying a set from Bill Rudolph at Williams Guitars. Just put them on last night. Perfect!

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 21 Oct 2007 9:39 am

Carter has or had little numbered plastic clips for the rods.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 21 Oct 2007 10:43 am

Michael Douchette wrote:Those little numbers are hard to see, and impossible in the dark. What a lot of us do is take tape (I use 1" gaff, black) and while the guitar is assembled, we take short pieces of it and wrap them around the pedal rods in a descending diagonal line, left to right. Makes it easy to put it together in darkness, too.

I never thought of that one. That's brilliant. Beats my masking tape and magic marker hands down.

Archie Nicol · Post by **Archie Nicol** » 21 Oct 2007 10:50 am

With the MSA, one pedal rod fits all.
Great for darkened venues.

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Larry Strawn · Post by **Larry Strawn** » 21 Oct 2007 10:51 am

I've only got 4 pedals so it's not much of a deal.

One pc. of white tape around #1 at the hook end, 2pcs. around #2, 3 pcs. around #3, nothing on #4, any dummy can find where that one goes, even in the dark!

Larry

Clyde Mattocks · Post by **Clyde Mattocks** » 21 Oct 2007 1:22 pm

I file small notches in mine 1 thru eight. On a dark stage, you can run your thumbnail down 'em and
count. Works for me.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 21 Oct 2007 7:36 pm

Archie Nicol wrote:With the MSA, one pedal rod fits all. Great for darkened venues.

Yes, but it's not just one fitting all, the main thing for me is that each rod has been adjusted for height, and if I put them on the wrong way round I've lost all those hours of getting the settings the way I like them.

Jason Stillwell · Post by **Jason Stillwell** » 21 Oct 2007 7:45 pm

I bought and sold a D-10 Dekley that had once belonged to a blind steeler. It had beads spot-welded onto it, one bead for pedal one, two for #2, etc.

Russ Little · Post by **Russ Little** » 21 Oct 2007 7:50 pm

I just color code mine red,white , blue

Mike Ester · Post by **Mike Ester** » 22 Oct 2007 10:02 am

I just engraved the number on each rod at the connector end.

John McClung · Post by **John McClung** » 22 Oct 2007 9:29 pm

I make my rods all exactly the same length so it doesn't matter what goes where.

Just kidding!

Tommy R. Butler · Post by **Tommy R. Butler** » 22 Oct 2007 9:40 pm

Derby Steel Guitars stamp each one with a number for you !!!!

Billy Wilson · Post by **Billy Wilson** » 23 Oct 2007 1:57 am

If it gets too dark to see the numbers in the dark get one of those flash lights with the wind up crank. Never a dead battery.

Archie Nicol · Post by **Archie Nicol** » 23 Oct 2007 3:00 pm

Alan, That's the good point about the modern MSA.
All the pedal rods are of equal length and the height adjustment is done where the pedal rod joins the cross-rod, as can be seen in the illustration.

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Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 24 Oct 2007 4:54 am

My Mullen has the numbers stamped into the sliding part on the rods. I rubbed black paint into them, makes it much easier to see, but now I think I'll replace the black with white, it should work even better. Just rub a small amount on, then wipe it off before it dries, it leaves the numbers filled.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 24 Oct 2007 8:01 pm

Archie Nicol wrote:Alan, That's the good point about the modern MSA.
All the pedal rods are of equal length and the height adjustment is done where the pedal rod joins the cross-rod, as can be seen in the illustration.
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It's a shame all pedal steels are not built that way.