Old Newman E9 temper tune chart, E's at 440
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Old Newman E9 temper tune chart, E's at 440
Anyone have a copy of this? I'd like to try programming the pedal settings into my new Strobostomp.
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Re: Old Newman E9 temper tune chart, E's at 440
Why? Does your band always tune flat of standard?Michael Haselman wrote:Anyone have a copy of this? I'd like to try programming the pedal settings into my new Strobostomp.
I recommend adding 1.5 to all of those numbers if you play with other people who use electronic tuners. Otherwise, you'll have to always aim high and avoid open strings to sound in tune.
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I've been using this for many years and haven't had complaints about tuning, yet. And I have a pretty fair ear myself. But, now that you bring it up, since the Newman tuning with the E's sharp seems to be programmed into the Strobostomp I may have to give it a try. BTW, does anyone remember the hertz/cents coversion formula? I know it's in here somewhere.
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Michael, Read here on the Forum that 1 Hz = 4 cents. Not sure it that is an exact number (as in 1.000 Hz = 4.000 cents), or not. ... bobMichael Haselman wrote:I've been using this for many years and haven't had complaints about tuning, yet. And I have a pretty fair ear myself. But, now that you bring it up, since the Newman tuning with the E's sharp seems to be programmed into the Strobostomp I may have to give it a try. BTW, does anyone remember the hertz/cents coversion formula? I know it's in here somewhere.
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b0b, thanks... that chart above looks like the perfect "recipe" for what gives steel players a bad name... no wonder so many people don't like the sound of a steel...
Mikey D... H.S.P.
Music hath the charm to soothe a savage beast, but I'd try a 10mm first.
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Music hath the charm to soothe a savage beast, but I'd try a 10mm first.
http://www.steelharp.com
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Damn, sorry I brought it up. I guess I have a tin ear and so do all the people I've played with over the past 30 years. So did Jeff Newman until he saw the light, I guess. b0b, you can close this, since my original question was answered. I don't want to get into anything here since I don't believe there's a definitive answer, judging by how the other "tempered tuning" threads usually go.
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I admit that I'm a recent convert, and I'm in the process of retraining these 64-year old ears, but I can't believe that I've deluded myself into thinking my steel has been in tune for so long.
It's 440 for me from now on - just the same way that I've tuned my six-string guitars since 1957!!!!
What was I thinking??? This is a real epiphany for me, and I'm much obliged to Dave Robbins for explaining it in a way that made sense.
RR
It's 440 for me from now on - just the same way that I've tuned my six-string guitars since 1957!!!!
What was I thinking??? This is a real epiphany for me, and I'm much obliged to Dave Robbins for explaining it in a way that made sense.
RR
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One more note from me on this then I'll shut the hell up. The Strobostomp comes with 2 PSG "sweetened" tunings, one with E's sharp, one with E's at 440, which I assume is the "old" Newman. Not everyone that uses this can be wrong.
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People who sound in tune with Jeff's old chart have learned to aim high with the bar by ear. It's not wrong, but it's easier if you do what Jeff later recommended.
Michael asked me to close this, so I will. My apology for having the last rant. Sometimes I can't help myself.
Michael asked me to close this, so I will. My apology for having the last rant. Sometimes I can't help myself.
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