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What's this pup.

Posted: 19 Mar 2005 1:16 pm
by Howard Tate
Is there a way to tell what's in my '84 Zum? I think the guy I bought it from said it had a Wallace in it, I don't remember for sure. Sorry if it's in the archives, I forgot to search first.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com



Posted: 19 Mar 2005 1:27 pm
by Jerry Roller
Howard, Jerry Wallace puts his label underneath his pickups. You can remove it and check for a brand. If you can post a closeup photo we might recognize what it is.
Jerry

Posted: 20 Mar 2005 7:07 am
by Howard Tate
Thank you Jerry. I did not want to remove the pick up, since it works now, no telling what would happen if I fooled with it. According to my little meter the resistance is around 17k ohms, if that means anything.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com



Posted: 20 Mar 2005 9:34 am
by Ricky Davis
The best way to find out; is take a picture of it and show it to us.
Ricky

Posted: 20 Mar 2005 4:04 pm
by Howard Tate
Took the picture, now if I can figure out how to post it. My wife knows but she's working twelve hour shifts for a while so I'm on my own.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com



Posted: 20 Mar 2005 5:16 pm
by Randy Beavers
On Bruce's pickups, especially an '84 model, the area around the magnets will be completely black. On Jerry Wallace's pickups, he "countersinks" the hole slightly around the magnet and you can see a layer of white next to the magnet.

Posted: 20 Mar 2005 6:30 pm
by Ricky Davis
Email me the picture(s) Howard and I'll put it up here for ya pal.
sshawaiian@austin.rr.com
Oh and Randy speakath the truth...
Ricky

Posted: 20 Mar 2005 6:53 pm
by Bob Lawrence
You can click the link below to see what the TT's on my Franklin look like. Then compare them to yours.
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/robert.lawrence/Franklin/FranklinD10

Posted: 20 Mar 2005 9:21 pm
by Howard Tate
Here's the picture. Thank's for the offer Ricky, my wife got home in time to do it.
<img src=http://charmedmusic.com/pickup.jpg>

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com


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Posted: 20 Mar 2005 9:30 pm
by Howard Tate
Bob, they look the same to me, thanks for taking the trouble to post the picture.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com



Posted: 21 Mar 2005 5:57 am
by T. C. Furlong
Howard,

That sure looks like an Emmons pickup to me.

TC

Posted: 21 Mar 2005 6:40 am
by Jerry Roller
I believe it is a stock Zumsteel pickup.
Jerry

Posted: 21 Mar 2005 7:15 am
by Randy Beavers
It could be a Zum or Emmons. They both have that black and white layered top piece. It doesn't look like a True Tone to me though.

Posted: 21 Mar 2005 8:15 am
by Howard Tate
I've had the guitar since '86 or '87, my memory must have been wrong. I've given some thought of going to a d-10 and if I sell this one I wouldn't want to misrepresent it. Thanks to all for your help, and for the emails too.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com



Posted: 23 Mar 2005 12:27 am
by jerry wallace
Howard, I am pretty sure thats one of Bruce's stock single coils..Mine and Bruce's look very simular except Randy is correct about the white ring around each magnet where I counter sink it a bit..

Emmons stock single coils have a 90 degree edge on the top plate where mine and Bruce's have a beveled edge.

Also I use a 1/8"{.125"} top plate where both the Zum and Emmons use 3/32" {.093"}

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Jerry Wallace/TrueTone pickups-2001 Zum: D-10,8+6, "98 Zum: D-10,8+8,Nashville 1000,Session 500 ,Session 400 head only amp,Tubefex,ProfexII, Artesia, New Mexico
http://www.jerrywallacemusic.com


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Posted: 23 Mar 2005 5:05 am
by Howard Tate
I guess you can trust Jerry Wallace regarding a Wallace pick up. Image It sounds sweet now, I wonder if a TT would brighten the mids for me?

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com