What's this pup.

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 19 Mar 2005 1:16 pm

Is there a way to tell what's in my '84 Zum? I think the guy I bought it from said it had a Wallace in it, I don't remember for sure. Sorry if it's in the archives, I forgot to search first.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
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Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 19 Mar 2005 1:27 pm

Howard, Jerry Wallace puts his label underneath his pickups. You can remove it and check for a brand. If you can post a closeup photo we might recognize what it is.
Jerry

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 20 Mar 2005 7:07 am

Thank you Jerry. I did not want to remove the pick up, since it works now, no telling what would happen if I fooled with it. According to my little meter the resistance is around 17k ohms, if that means anything.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 20 Mar 2005 9:34 am

The best way to find out; is take a picture of it and show it to us.
Ricky

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 20 Mar 2005 4:04 pm

Took the picture, now if I can figure out how to post it. My wife knows but she's working twelve hour shifts for a while so I'm on my own.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com

Randy Beavers · Post by **Randy Beavers** » 20 Mar 2005 5:16 pm

On Bruce's pickups, especially an '84 model, the area around the magnets will be completely black. On Jerry Wallace's pickups, he "countersinks" the hole slightly around the magnet and you can see a layer of white next to the magnet.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 20 Mar 2005 6:30 pm

Email me the picture(s) Howard and I'll put it up here for ya pal.
sshawaiian@austin.rr.com
Oh and Randy speakath the truth...
Ricky

Bob Lawrence · Post by **Bob Lawrence** » 20 Mar 2005 6:53 pm

You can click the link below to see what the TT's on my Franklin look like. Then compare them to yours.
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/robert.lawrence/Franklin/FranklinD10

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 20 Mar 2005 9:21 pm

Here's the picture. Thank's for the offer Ricky, my wife got home in time to do it.
<img src=http://charmedmusic.com/pickup.jpg>

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com

[This message was edited by Howard Tate on 20 March 2005 at 09:24 PM.]

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 20 Mar 2005 9:30 pm

Bob, they look the same to me, thanks for taking the trouble to post the picture.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com

T. C. Furlong · Post by **T. C. Furlong** » 21 Mar 2005 5:57 am

Howard,

That sure looks like an Emmons pickup to me.

TC

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 21 Mar 2005 6:40 am

I believe it is a stock Zumsteel pickup.
Jerry

Randy Beavers · Post by **Randy Beavers** » 21 Mar 2005 7:15 am

It could be a Zum or Emmons. They both have that black and white layered top piece. It doesn't look like a True Tone to me though.

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 21 Mar 2005 8:15 am

I've had the guitar since '86 or '87, my memory must have been wrong. I've given some thought of going to a d-10 and if I sell this one I wouldn't want to misrepresent it. Thanks to all for your help, and for the emails too.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com

jerry wallace · Post by **jerry wallace** » 23 Mar 2005 12:27 am

Howard, I am pretty sure thats one of Bruce's stock single coils..Mine and Bruce's look very simular except Randy is correct about the white ring around each magnet where I counter sink it a bit..

Emmons stock single coils have a 90 degree edge on the top plate where mine and Bruce's have a beveled edge.

Also I use a 1/8"{.125"} top plate where both the Zum and Emmons use 3/32" {.093"}

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[This message was edited by jerry wallace on 23 March 2005 at 12:29 AM.]

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 23 Mar 2005 5:05 am

I guess you can trust Jerry Wallace regarding a Wallace pick up.

It sounds sweet now, I wonder if a TT would brighten the mids for me?

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
http://www.Charmedmusic.com