Bullet Bar to try
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Bullet Bar to try
I play mostly reso but have a low-end 6-string lap steel and am starting a project of building an 8-string to have something to work on over the holiday break. I have a couple bars with the concave sides typically used with acoustics. I'd like to try a bullet bar. But I see they aren't inexpensive and come in many sizes, both length and diameter. I don't want to invest in a whole bunch to see which size works best. I'm hoping someone can recommend a middle-of-the-road model and size I could start with. My hands fit a typical size Large gloves and again, I'll be playing 6 and 8 string lap steel.
I was looking at the Hillman bars on https://tonebars.com/ and the price point looks okay. Wonder what's the best diameter and length for lap steel with large but not XL hands. And would power-coated be a good place to start?
-Ken
I was looking at the Hillman bars on https://tonebars.com/ and the price point looks okay. Wonder what's the best diameter and length for lap steel with large but not XL hands. And would power-coated be a good place to start?
-Ken
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I like the 3/4 diameter and maybe 3 inches long for 8-string, both lap steel and dobro. I tried thicker and longer bars and own the whole size/material/manufacturer range, plus the more typical dobro bars. After the expense and experimenting that you seem to want to avoid, I use bullet bars 3/4 thick and about 3 long. Differences between makers or even material (coated) are subtle and only noticeable in a direct comparison when trying to detect differences. For all practical purposes, the cheapest (Dunlop 918) works as well for me as those for which I paid 3 or 4 times the price and I actually have no strong preference other than size (and not having dings in the bar, those accumulate with use, you drop those round bars more often).
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I would recommend the Dunlop 920. It’s big enough for a 6 or 8 string, and if you hands fit large size gloves I think that would be a good size. It’s quite a bit bigger than a 919, the next size down. In my opinion you can get a more comfortable “confident grip on a larger round bar when it’s a bit larger, especially when you practice bar hand techniques like lifting the bar up on its nose.
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My preference is a 3" x 7/8" bar. Good for both 6 and 8 string. A little extra size over a 3/4" bar makes it easier for me to handle. I highly recommend the polymer bars made by Todd Clinesmith. They reduce string noise and friction considerably and stick to your hand nicely. I will never go back to a metal bar. They are a bit pricy at around $100, but so worth it!
https://www.clinesmithinstruments.com/c ... ccessories
https://www.clinesmithinstruments.com/c ... ccessories
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I personally favor the 3/4" x 3" Latch Lake (formerly Broz-O-Phonic) bar:
https://latchlakemusic.com/slides/hawaiian-bar/
https://latchlakemusic.com/slides/hawaiian-bar/
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So you'll have to experiment with the width, but at least it looks like there is some consensus that 3 inches is a good length. I am in the 3/4 camp because I found 7/8 too much work, slower and heavier. Either is fine. Regarding a response above: I would say the Dunlop 918 is the size down from the 920. The 919 (Jerry Byrd) is even smaller (shorter than the 918).
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I initially bought a latch lake bar, but I had a really hard time doing reverse slants with that bar. So I bought a Dunlop 918, which is just a bit shorter, and that made reverse slants a lot easier for my thumb to maneuver the bar into the right position without dropping it. However, now that I've used the 918 for a while, I can do reverse Lance with the latch lake bar, so maybe I just needed to practice with it more.
I still primarily use the Dunlop 918 though.
For what it's worth, I wear large gloves, and a large thumb pick. So it's not like my hands are small or anything like that.
I still primarily use the Dunlop 918 though.
For what it's worth, I wear large gloves, and a large thumb pick. So it's not like my hands are small or anything like that.
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