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Pedal Steel Trumpet Sound?

Posted: 1 Sep 2014 5:13 am
by Scott Duckworth

Posted: 1 Sep 2014 9:46 am
by Jim Smith
That doesn't sound like a trumpet to me, just a differently played and possibly EQ'd steel guitar.

Posted: 1 Sep 2014 10:29 am
by Scott Duckworth
I know it's a PSG, just wondering what effect or EQ setting is being used?

Posted: 1 Sep 2014 10:54 am
by Cliff Kane
It's the attack of the note, it's a soft attack, you can do it with picking technique and/or volume pedal.

Posted: 2 Sep 2014 2:17 am
by Oliver Samland
Listen to the decay of the notes. That sounds suspiciously like a sitar bar, played with soft attacks.

Posted: 2 Sep 2014 10:32 am
by chris ivey
listen to 'oleo' on the emmons 'one for the road' album.
great horn and/or woodwinds sounds by the master.
your example is nothing special.

Posted: 7 Sep 2014 2:14 am
by Micky Byrne
SITAR bar for sure. I still have one I bought in 1970, with an Emmons logo stamped at the back. Also in the 70's I had a Korg "monophonic" guitar Synth (Single notes to trigger the effect).....The trumpet sound when used was soooo authentic.

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Posted: 7 Sep 2014 10:34 am
by Butch Pytko
This post title instantly caused me to reflect-back about the one and only time I ever heard a steel player use a "Trumpet" sound effect through his steel guitar. I'm talking about the one and only great Buddy Emmons--when he traveled the country putting-on his solo concerts, back in the 80's.

He had effects in a rack-mount configuration, and stomp effect pedals in a brief case next to him--which, all together, looked like a small resemblance of "Mission Control Houston" at his finger tips.

He had all kinds of effects coming from that effect/array system--and "Trumpet" was one of them. Somehow, he had everything programmed through his volume pedal--pushing forward, he'd get one effect--pushing back he'd get another.

Needless to say, Buddy Emmons put on a spectacular show of his excellent playing prowess, but the added attraction, was his "Special Effects" spectacle!

Posted: 7 Sep 2014 1:50 pm
by Micky Byrne
Butch....Buddy used an Echo-plex echo for many years. They are quite a big unit, and not the size of a typical stomp box. On the Black Album, On "Witches brew" it gave a perfect example of the Echo-plex on the intro, then "probably" a Boss tone for the Witches laughter :D ... Buddy probably had the Korg monophonic synth too....I've heard great trumpet tracks from him :D He's always so tastefull in his delivery.


Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Posted: 7 Sep 2014 4:43 pm
by Butch Pytko
Micky--If you read my post, in addition to seeing stomp effects, I saw a RACK-MOUNT set-up, as well. The rack-mount unit was very large, filled with effect units(a lot larger than stomp boxs), which was a typical band road case. Can't remember how many effects in the rack-mount case, or how many stomp effects in his brief case. Can't remember if he had his Echo-Plex at that specific concert, but I do vividly remember him using the Echo-Plex at a Ray Price concert at Gilley's, Houston, TX in the early 80's. I was right up in front of Buddy, at the Ray Price concert, and could easily see all his equipment.

Posted: 8 Sep 2014 1:21 am
by Micky Byrne
Hey Butch...I googled Echo-Plex...I'd forgotten what they looked like...I Guess "Tape" echos had a much warmer sound :D

http://www.rezostudio.com/fiches-18-ech ... delay.html

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Posted: 8 Sep 2014 2:51 am
by Scott Duckworth
The use of the sitar bar is interesting, although I figure some kind of effects had to play into it. The effects stuff today sure isn't the same as that of yesteryear...

Posted: 8 Sep 2014 10:05 pm
by Tom Geldner
The original version of Oleo (Sonny Rollins not withstanding) from Steel Guitar Jazz {1963} had Jerome Richardson on sax doing the, uh, sax parts and Buddy being Buddy. I assume those were redone as trumpet sounds by Buddy on One for the Road. (Which I have not heard.)

Posted: 9 Sep 2014 2:22 am
by Jack Stoner
I'm not in the same class as the Big E, but when I was on the road with Tommy Cash I used a phase shifter to do the horn parts on "Ring of Fire".

Posted: 9 Sep 2014 4:37 pm
by Paddy Long
Buddy used an envelope follower pedal at one stage for horn type Wah wah effects - perhaps it's this ??

Posted: 9 Sep 2014 5:06 pm
by John Billings
"Buddy used an Echo-plex echo for many years."

The Echoplex was invented by Forumite, and my good friend, Don Dixon, a wonderful player! They do impart a warm sound to one's signal. I generally used it with my Tele. One gig, the tape broke, so I removed it from the chain. The sound man ran up, and said "What's happened to your sound?" I plugged it back in, and even without the tape, my sound came back! Does it have to do with it's 6 volt circuit? I don't know. But I do know that they are wonderful tone machines! Highly recommended!