Pedal Steel Trumpet Sound?

Scott Duckworth · Post by **Scott Duckworth** » 1 Sep 2014 5:13 am

How's it being done?

https://soundcloud.com/eddysoundsteel/silent-night-1

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 1 Sep 2014 9:46 am

That doesn't sound like a trumpet to me, just a differently played and possibly EQ'd steel guitar.

Scott Duckworth · Post by **Scott Duckworth** » 1 Sep 2014 10:29 am

I know it's a PSG, just wondering what effect or EQ setting is being used?

Cliff Kane · Post by **Cliff Kane** » 1 Sep 2014 10:54 am

It's the attack of the note, it's a soft attack, you can do it with picking technique and/or volume pedal.

Oliver Samland · Post by **Oliver Samland** » 2 Sep 2014 2:17 am

Listen to the decay of the notes. That sounds suspiciously like a sitar bar, played with soft attacks.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 2 Sep 2014 10:32 am

listen to 'oleo' on the emmons 'one for the road' album.
great horn and/or woodwinds sounds by the master.
your example is nothing special.

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 7 Sep 2014 2:14 am

SITAR bar for sure. I still have one I bought in 1970, with an Emmons logo stamped at the back. Also in the 70's I had a Korg "monophonic" guitar Synth (Single notes to trigger the effect).....The trumpet sound when used was soooo authentic.

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Butch Pytko · Post by **Butch Pytko** » 7 Sep 2014 10:34 am

This post title instantly caused me to reflect-back about the one and only time I ever heard a steel player use a "Trumpet" sound effect through his steel guitar. I'm talking about the one and only great Buddy Emmons--when he traveled the country putting-on his solo concerts, back in the 80's.

He had effects in a rack-mount configuration, and stomp effect pedals in a brief case next to him--which, all together, looked like a small resemblance of "Mission Control Houston" at his finger tips.

He had all kinds of effects coming from that effect/array system--and "Trumpet" was one of them. Somehow, he had everything programmed through his volume pedal--pushing forward, he'd get one effect--pushing back he'd get another.

Needless to say, Buddy Emmons put on a spectacular show of his excellent playing prowess, but the added attraction, was his "Special Effects" spectacle!

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 7 Sep 2014 1:50 pm

Butch....Buddy used an Echo-plex echo for many years. They are quite a big unit, and not the size of a typical stomp box. On the Black Album, On "Witches brew" it gave a perfect example of the Echo-plex on the intro, then "probably" a Boss tone for the Witches laughter

... Buddy probably had the Korg monophonic synth too....I've heard great trumpet tracks from him

He's always so tastefull in his delivery.

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Butch Pytko · Post by **Butch Pytko** » 7 Sep 2014 4:43 pm

Micky--If you read my post, in addition to seeing stomp effects, I saw a RACK-MOUNT set-up, as well. The rack-mount unit was very large, filled with effect units(a lot larger than stomp boxs), which was a typical band road case. Can't remember how many effects in the rack-mount case, or how many stomp effects in his brief case. Can't remember if he had his Echo-Plex at that specific concert, but I do vividly remember him using the Echo-Plex at a Ray Price concert at Gilley's, Houston, TX in the early 80's. I was right up in front of Buddy, at the Ray Price concert, and could easily see all his equipment.

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 8 Sep 2014 1:21 am

Hey Butch...I googled Echo-Plex...I'd forgotten what they looked like...I Guess "Tape" echos had a much warmer sound

http://www.rezostudio.com/fiches-18-ech ... delay.html

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Scott Duckworth · Post by **Scott Duckworth** » 8 Sep 2014 2:51 am

The use of the sitar bar is interesting, although I figure some kind of effects had to play into it. The effects stuff today sure isn't the same as that of yesteryear...

Tom Geldner · Post by **Tom Geldner** » 8 Sep 2014 10:05 pm

The original version of Oleo (Sonny Rollins not withstanding) from Steel Guitar Jazz {1963} had Jerome Richardson on sax doing the, uh, sax parts and Buddy being Buddy. I assume those were redone as trumpet sounds by Buddy on One for the Road. (Which I have not heard.)

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 9 Sep 2014 2:22 am

I'm not in the same class as the Big E, but when I was on the road with Tommy Cash I used a phase shifter to do the horn parts on "Ring of Fire".

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 9 Sep 2014 4:37 pm

Buddy used an envelope follower pedal at one stage for horn type Wah wah effects - perhaps it's this ??

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 9 Sep 2014 5:06 pm

"Buddy used an Echo-plex echo for many years."

The Echoplex was invented by Forumite, and my good friend, Don Dixon, a wonderful player! They do impart a warm sound to one's signal. I generally used it with my Tele. One gig, the tape broke, so I removed it from the chain. The sound man ran up, and said "What's happened to your sound?" I plugged it back in, and even without the tape, my sound came back! Does it have to do with it's 6 volt circuit? I don't know. But I do know that they are wonderful tone machines! Highly recommended!