Example of steel in non-country setting

Josh Murray · Post by **Josh Murray** » 17 Oct 2012 5:13 am

I remember reading a post a while ago from someone looking for examples of steel being used outside of country music. I have posted some links below to a few favourites of mine. This is from Matt Mays, with fellow maritimer Dale Murray (no relation) (www.dalemurray.ca) on steel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSV4YA15AI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpf1TWr690w

Enjoy,
Josh

Bill Ladd · Post by **Bill Ladd** » 17 Oct 2012 6:17 am

Wow. Awesome steel on that first cut!

More steel in that one song that most modern country songs released all year!

Rick Kreuziger · Post by **Rick Kreuziger** » 17 Oct 2012 9:18 am

Here's one I played on...
wonderful song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4HE2wv5 ... e=youtu.be

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 17 Oct 2012 9:59 am

A couple decades ago with Dee Lannon. The lead guitar is Nick Kane, who went on to be the lead guitar of the Mavericks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6v0spuQByM

I got a call to do a version of ‘I Only Have Eyes’ for Doug Aitken’s video installation at the Hirshhorn Museum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZigbEWdZ ... HqlATSuUs=

Sat in for one with Tiger Army. I’m back behind the bass player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbyp8fIu2CQ

5 years ago with Alessandro Cortini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavBmNdV ... re=related

A solo from the Guitar Geek Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plk8H9f69Rs

Andy put us on a Madonna video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTm9JA5a ... re=related

Here’s a couple of Tack live at the Viper Room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am1u47w5 ... ure=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7xrCf0Lek

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 18 Oct 2012 6:59 am

Here's another ten pages:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=208507

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 18 Oct 2012 7:28 am

Nice to see Dee Lannon again. She's been living here in Austin a long time now, I worked with her a bunch. Her husband Lars Albrecht is lead guitarist for Gary P. Nunn.

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 18 Oct 2012 11:37 am

Herb, I spent a few years working for Dee and it was a seriously fun time. Good songs and she could sing, not to mention that she was a great 'front person'. The room would be rock-a-billy men with pompadour hair dancing with women in poodle skirts and Betty Page hairdos. I would go back and do it again, in an instant.

Larry Tracy · Post by **Larry Tracy** » 18 Oct 2012 9:55 pm

I played with Dee in the Bay Area before she moved to LA. Everything Chaz and Herb said. Dee and Lars are great people.

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 20 Oct 2012 8:39 pm

The steel is becoming popular among singer/songwriters who are not particularly country oriented, but just like the sound of the instrument. This is where the instrument is heading. Let's hope more of those people hire more steel players.

BTW, Rock and roll Hall-of-famers Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders now have a steel players named Eric Heyward in their lineup. The band is still touring and playing to SRO crowds in in huge auditoriums, and all their fans are hearing lots of steel.

Aaron Goldstein · Post by **Aaron Goldstein** » 20 Oct 2012 9:37 pm

Nice to see some love for Dale Murray, a guy who most certainly influenced me to start playing.

From the following Matt Mays record, there's a cut called Good People that also really made me want to play. Not sure if Dale played on this or if it was Brad Conrad, who used to play the part live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDhiOIr9sM

Josh Murray · Post by **Josh Murray** » 21 Oct 2012 3:50 pm

Dale Murray was definitely the catalyst for me too. I enjoyed seeing you play at Osheaga this year as well Aaron. Good stuff!

Josh

Aaron Goldstein · Post by **Aaron Goldstein** » 21 Oct 2012 8:26 pm

Hey thanks Josh. Where in NB are you?

Josh Murray · Post by **Josh Murray** » 22 Oct 2012 3:35 am

No problem! I recently moved back to my home town Moncton after spending a couple of years in Toronto. Let me know if you're ever out this way

Aaron Goldstein · Post by **Aaron Goldstein** » 22 Oct 2012 6:27 am

I'm out your way at least a couple times a year sur. I've spent some time in Sackville. Moncton too for that matter. Look for me with Daniel Romano & th Trilliums early next year.

Aaron Shively · Post by **Aaron Shively** » 29 Oct 2012 7:24 pm

loving dale murray! wish i had come across him sooner.

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 30 Oct 2012 7:59 am

Here's how great a steel guitar can sound with a 60 piece string orchestra from south of the border. The tune is "MEMORIES of MARIA" by Jerry Byrd. It's on the home page of the jerrybyrd-fanclub.com

As one can see, the steel guitar if played appropriately, can meld into just about any musical setting.

What do you think of it?

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 30 Oct 2012 8:37 am

Ray Montee wrote:Here's how great a steel guitar can sound with a 60 piece string orchestra from south of the border.

As one can see, the steel guitar if played appropriately, can meld into just about any musical setting.

What do you think of it?

Where is it Ray? Is there a link?

Mike Holder · Post by **Mike Holder** » 30 Oct 2012 10:00 am

Nice to see fellow Canadian steelers Joshua & Aaron picking up the torch. I would assume they know the names Buddy Cage,Ron Dann,Bob Lucier, Steve Smith, Al Brisco, Burke Carroll & Dennis DeLorme who all laid the foundation of that style of playing in the earlier folk era that was so prevalent in the mid sixties. The steel has been widely used by Sneezy Waters, Willie P. Bennett, David Essig, Max Mouse & the Gorillas, Ian & Sylvia & NRPS. I think it's all just great music & don't see a huge difference between the labels attached to the style.."Just sayin". I would love to see the steel involved where ever anyone has the courage to apply it because it's capable of anything if the right person is playing it. I don't know how to post the songs on here but 2 other examples of this kind of playing are Livin In A Dirty Town by Willie P. Bennett from his Take My Own Advice CD & We All Want What We Can't Have by The Warren Brothers on their King Of Nothing CD. I know for a fact that steel player learned from all the steelers listed above. Just glad to see this instrument expand & survive.

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 30 Oct 2012 7:49 pm

Generations, with Joe Strummer, Segs and Rat Scabies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXQ4j5bpro

I'm the high notes on this track from American Beauty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Hxi-HSgNPc

I'm part of the mix, White Oleander. I'm using a midi pickup to trigger samples that blend in with the steel, so that the steel note evolves into something else and blends into the texture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPH8WOK ... re=related

Jason Rumley · Post by **Jason Rumley** » 31 Oct 2012 7:47 am

This has also been my favorite example that the pedal steel can do anything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY_R3FmmBw

(Milo Deering shredding)

Eddie Cunningham · Post by **Eddie Cunningham** » 31 Oct 2012 1:39 pm

From an old "78" RPM record in 1949 ," Careless Hands " , Sammy Kaye featured steel with a pop dance band. Look it up on Utube to give a listen !! Beautiful sounds from an old non-pedal Hawaiian steel guitar !!

Steve Hotra · Post by **Steve Hotra** » 31 Oct 2012 5:02 pm

chas smith wrote:Generations, with Joe Strummer, Segs and Rat Scabies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXQ4j5bpro

I'm the high notes on this track from American Beauty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Hxi-HSgNPc

I'm part of the mix, White Oleander. I'm using a midi pickup to trigger samples that blend in with the steel, so that the steel note evolves into something else and blends into the texture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPH8WOK ... re=related

Chas,
Pretty cool sounds you have going on, especially the track from American Beauty.
Did you use a lot of reverb on the track?
Thanks for posting
Steve

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 31 Oct 2012 6:17 pm

Here is the live recording of my chamber music group. The instruments are viola, cello and steel. (Note: I'm playing the melody on the bass strings of my U-12.)

http://pedalsteelmusic.com/?p=502

Aside from a few of my friends, the audience consisted of classical music lovers, most of whom had never seen a pedal steel guitar before. Suffice to say they were quite intrigued.

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 31 Oct 2012 9:08 pm

Steve, on those kinds of sessions, "floating steel", I typically use my Eventide H-8000 to get the delay. It has 2 "engines" and if I use both of them in a cascade, I usually use a chorus/delay into a long delay.

Before I got the H-80000, back in the early '90s, I "cascaded" 3 Eventide H-3000s and I used variations of pitched delays, octaves, 5ths and 2nds into other delays. The trick was to keep the steel guitar "identity" and make a new sound at the same time.

I recently had a call for a tv show called Enlightened, that Laura Dern is in, where I played very simple single note phrases. The steel guitar really shines in that environment.

Bishop Ronnie P Hall · Post by **Bishop Ronnie P Hall** » 1 Nov 2012 4:48 am

Hi Guys & Gals! I`m not really sure, but does`nt this sort of tie in with this topic:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=208507

The versatility of the Steel, no matter which concept played, is only limited by the persons imagination, or artistic ability, is`nt it?

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