Garcia on a MCI with Dylan 1987

Joe Harwell · Post by **Joe Harwell** » 22 Jan 2010 7:04 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDavGrTWX_c

Interesting performance.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 22 Jan 2010 10:52 am

Wow, that was painful. It reminded me of some of those shredding videos. $:\$

Joe Harwell · Post by **Joe Harwell** » 22 Jan 2010 11:42 am

Seems like they had a hard time hearing each other.

It's encouraging to know
that everyone has their better days

!

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 22 Jan 2010 12:09 pm

Not bad for a guy who was in a freakin' COMA a year ealier!

I don't know what the other guys' excuse is.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 22 Jan 2010 1:10 pm

yet another example of tone being in the hands more than the steel.

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 22 Jan 2010 6:09 pm

Chris, good one. So true

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 23 Jan 2010 12:18 am

The rythm on this is a lot different than the original from John Wesley Harding, a disadvantage for the performance in my opinion.

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 23 Jan 2010 7:42 am

Joachim Kettner wrote:The rythm on this is a lot different than the original from John Wesley Harding, a disadvantage for the performance in my opinion.

Oh Man... I have seen Dylan a few times and his songs have become almost indistiguishable from the original.
I remember one time, about half way through a tune I thought was maybe off his new album or something, suddenly realizing...
Oh my god... this is Mr Tamborine Man.

Kenny Martin · Post by **Kenny Martin** » 23 Jan 2010 4:59 pm

See kids, this is what happens when you mix drugs with brains that are already burned out! Then throw a steel on stage with somebody that doesn't have a clue and you have "Todays Country Music"

Now i know where Nashville gets what they call country from! Who would know that all this time Bob Dylan started the "New Country" music we hear today! WOW, I am in awe!!!

Hook Moore · Post by **Hook Moore** » 23 Jan 2010 5:39 pm

The Drummers did ok..

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 24 Jan 2010 9:10 pm

Kenny Martin wrote:See kids, this is what happens when you mix drugs with brains that are already burned out! Then throw a steel on stage with somebody that doesn't have a clue and you have "Todays Country Music"

Now i know where Nashville gets what they call country from! Who would know that all this time Bob Dylan started the "New Country" music we hear today! WOW, I am in awe!!!

Does anyone else think Dylan and Garcia are the ones responsible for the state of today's country music???
This statement seems more bizzare than the video itself, to me.
If anything I think New Country sounds more like a certain band from Spartanburg South Carolina.
Pete Burak

Dave Zirbel · Post by **Dave Zirbel** » 24 Jan 2010 10:37 pm

Oh Man... I have seen Dylan a few times and his songs have become almost indistiguishable from the original.
I remember one time, about half way through a tune I thought was maybe off his new album or something, suddenly realizing...
Oh my god... this is Mr Tamborine Man.

I've been a fan of the Dead and Dylan but had the exact same reaction. I sat through 2+ hours of the Dead and then Dylan walked out. They played for 10 minutes I still didn't recognize the tune. I left with a headache!

I'm not even going to watch the video.

Kenny Martin · Post by **Kenny Martin** » 25 Jan 2010 7:58 am

Hey Pete, I'll take option #2!

It suites me! THX!

Who's in Spartanburg?

Kenny Martin · Post by **Kenny Martin** » 25 Jan 2010 8:02 am

Pete, ya took my options off so what are my choices again?

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 25 Jan 2010 10:07 am

Kenny Martin wrote:Hey Pete, I'll take option #2! It suites me! THX!

Who's in Spartanburg?

One of my favorite groups...
The Marshall Tucker Band

I think New Country is actually a bit more Lynard Skynard, though.

Kenny Martin · Post by **Kenny Martin** » 25 Jan 2010 12:50 pm

Yep did a few shows with Doug Gray!

Played the Palamino in Charlotte with them a good while back!

Jammed with Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1971 or 72 at a club called the "Hot Box" in Columbia! They were working for $300 for the weekend! I play guitar as well!

That music is now todays country!
Sorry to hijack the thread! Yall come back now, ya hear!!!

Bill McCloskey · Post by **Bill McCloskey** » 25 Jan 2010 1:50 pm

I've read some interviews with Dylan where he said that the Greatful Dead tour was the beginning of his re-engagement with the music. Basically, that he had stopped caring about that time, was completely unprepared, and he had lost interest in performing. But after that tour, he sort of hit bottom and starting climbing out again, figuring out how to get back into playing and that it was the catalyst to bring him back. I may be paraphrasing but as I remember that was the gist.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 26 Jan 2010 10:01 am

I believe that's my MCI I have now or just like it.

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 26 Jan 2010 1:34 pm

Bill McCloskey wrote:I've read some interviews with Dylan where he said that the Greatful Dead tour was the beginning of his re-engagement with the music. Basically, that he had stopped caring about that time, was completely unprepared, and he had lost interest in performing. But after that tour, he sort of hit bottom and starting climbing out again, figuring out how to get back into playing and that it was the catalyst to bring him back. I may be paraphrasing but as I remember that was the gist.

Bill, I remeber reading that article also (welcome back to the Forum, btw).
Dylan said that he didn't even rember how his songs went. He said he was thankful to Jerry G, who was like... here, let me show ya how it goes.

I really like "You Gotta Serve Somebody" from that Dylan/Dead disc.

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 27 Jan 2010 9:07 am

the guy singing next to dylan is wearing some daisy duke shorts and dylan himself looks like he borrowed his outfit from stevie nicks. too funny.

oh wait...right...the steel...yeah awful.
heroin?

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 27 Jan 2010 10:36 am

That guy standing next to Dylan is Bob Weir.
I don't think the steel playing is bad at all, I've listened to it several times and I found that Mr. Garcia was trying to stick close to the original, which was done by Pete Drake.
Only the tempo was no good foundation for it at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMtRo0R9Us

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 27 Jan 2010 11:59 am

I like garcias steelin usually. Im not a fan of the dead but really like Garcias guitar playing with Grisman. In otherwors i respect him as a musician. but here he just looks out of his gourd...the picking is super tentative and weak. I cant beleive he is in his right mind here, that just cannot be the same musician I know as Jerry Garcia, regardless of the instrument. Not liking his style is one thing, finding his licks rudimentary or boring is another, but the guy always played with confidence and you could respect his musical ability if not his note choices...not so much here this time. Thats just my opinion tho

Joe Harwell · Post by **Joe Harwell** » 27 Jan 2010 9:15 pm

When you look at the credits,
it is a group of talented musicians.

For whatever reason,
it was one of those times
when, no matter the talent,
the performance left lots to be desired.

It was the first time I saw Garcia
on something other than a ZB.

I wondered if it was Garcia's MCI,
or perhaps he borrowed it from someone?

The tonal characteristics sounded
closely the same to me as the ZB.