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Topic: The four seventh chord |
Sherman Willden
From: Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 9:09 am
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When is something like a F7th chord in the key of C used? Do we ever slide from the C7th to a F7th to a G7th or back the other way?
Thanks in advance;
Sherman |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 9:12 am
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F is, as you say, the '4' chord when playing in the key of C major. Making it an F7 (4/7th) is simply a way of colouring the chord, commonly to give the change a bluesier connotation. It can also be an F9th, or even a 13th - at its root, it remains, essentially, a '4' chord. _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Brett Lanier
From: Hermitage, TN
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 10:40 am
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Try playing along with Haggard's Workingman's blues. You can play d7(key of A) just about any time on the 4 chord, but especially on the hits in the chorus.  |
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Jeff Valentine
From: Colorado Springs, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 9:11 pm
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If you're playing a 12 bar blues in the key of C, your F chord is dominant. In my experience the IV chord in blues is almost always a dominant 7th chord unless you're playing Bird blues. That 7th on the F7 chord is an Eb, which is a pretty important bluesy note in the key of C. You can also think of playing a C minor triad over the F7 chord. That's another way to look at it.
-Jeff |
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Jeff Valentine
From: Colorado Springs, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 9:13 pm
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Hi Sherman. You're from the Springs?? I guess it's a small world. Nice weather we're having......
-Jeff |
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Ken Pippus
From: Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 10:08 pm
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I might reply after I get my dog unfrozen from the hydrant.
KP |
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Sonny Jenkins
From: Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 6:48 am
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Jeff, I believe you meant the F chord in the key of C would be "sub-dominant",,,,the G7 would be dominant. In blues playing,,,all the chords can and are commonly "colored" by the added 7th and 9th,,,the bluesy sound,, |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 8:05 am
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The F7th chord is closely related to the A diminished chord, repeated every 3 frets up and down the fretboard. |
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Jeff Valentine
From: Colorado Springs, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 6:48 pm
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Sonny,
Yes, I see what you're talking about. G7 is the dominant chord in the key of C. I always refer to any chord with a 7, 9, 11 or 13 as dominant. The F7 chord is technically a Bb major scale, and is the dominant in that key.
-Jeff |
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