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Topic: Looking for something similar to an SP2 bar |
James Mayer
From: back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 26 Feb 2008 8:47 am
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I mainly play with a Shubb-Pierce SP2 and am looking for something similar but with a different sound. I have a Boyett lead-filled glass bar that sounds great but is not as easy to handle. I'm looking for something with a grip. I just checked the Tribotone site and was disappointed to find that there are still no alternatives to the bullet bar on it.
Is there anything new out there? |
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Mark Mansueto
From: Michigan, USA
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Steinar Gregertsen
From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Feb 2008 12:10 pm
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Gary Swallows, who invented the Shubb GS bar, will make one with a rounded 'nose', like the SP2, on request. The SP2 was my main bar until I 'converted' to bullet bars and the TriboTone, but I also have a Shubb GS in my collection and quite liked the feel of the wood handle.
Steinar _________________ "Play to express, not to impress"
Website - YouTube |
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Bill Hampton
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2008 12:18 pm
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My main complaint with the GS bar was the sharp nose -- guess I'll have to contact Gary. I liked the feel of the wood grip.
I work in an industrial ceramic manufacturing facility and have been planning to make a bar (same general shape as an SP2)out of zirconia. I'll let you know how it turns out if I ever get around to it. |
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Stephan Miller
From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2008 12:45 pm
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I have a "store-bought" GS (without the rounded nose) and the wood grip feels great, but I think the SP-2 has it beat tonally (possibly because the GS is the lighter of the two). I only use bullet bars now, and in my "collection" are a bunch of the more grip-friendly ones-- Tribotone, Boyett, Red Rajah, Black Phoenix.
If you don't have hand issues or disabilities, I think it would be worth your while to practice with a bullet bar until a comfort level sets in. If these bars become a viable option for you, your tonal range could expand quite a bit. |
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Edward Meisse
From: Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2008 1:31 pm
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The GS bar is way too light for me. I find it to be tonally repugnant. And I have found bullet bars to be by far the most effective instrument for everything except pull-offs. And for that you'd want a bar with a square edge. The compromise bars tend to give you the least of both worlds imho. _________________ Amor vincit omnia |
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Mark Mansueto
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 12:51 pm
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Well, I recieved my Shubb GS a couple days ago and I think it's great. I rounded and polished one end and reshaped the wooden handle to fit my hand better. THe nice thing about the GS is that the steel part is made of hardened stainless which means you can tweak the shape like I did. Can't do that with a plated bar.
The handle worked well right out of the box but I'm really picky about the feel of my bars.
It took a little getting used to the lighter weight but once I adjusted my pressure it's fine. I A-B'd it with my Dunlop 925 as well as a custom made sculptured bar and the tones are very close. The only real difference that's noticable is that the chrome 925 bar has a bit less drag on the strings (feels slicker) but is also the hardest to hold onto.
I think that anyone who has trouble holding on to a bar should at least try the Shubb GS. For people with arthritis ETC, not only is it easy to hold but is not cold like a steel bar. _________________ https://markmansueto.bandcamp.com/
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Eric Barker
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 3:22 pm
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Mark,
I have a GS that I'd like to round also. Could you post a picture of yours? I don't have a round nose bar to use as a model and would like to see what you did.
Thanks |
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AJ Azure
From: Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Mar 2008 7:33 pm
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Mark Mansueto wrote: |
Well, I recieved my Shubb GS a couple days ago and I think it's great. I rounded and polished one end and reshaped the wooden handle to fit my hand better. THe nice thing about the GS is that the steel part is made of hardened stainless which means you can tweak the shape like I did. Can't do that with a plated bar.
The handle worked well right out of the box but I'm really picky about the feel of my bars.
It took a little getting used to the lighter weight but once I adjusted my pressure it's fine. I A-B'd it with my Dunlop 925 as well as a custom made Isculptured bar and the tones are very close. The only real difference that's noticable is that the chrome 925 bar has a bit less drag on the strings (feels slicker) but is also the hardest to hold onto.
I think that anyone who has trouble holding on to a bar should at least try the Shubb GS. For people with arthritis ETC, not only is it easy to hold but is not cold like a steel bar. |
f you want a rounded end with a custom hand fit then contact the maker he does custom jobs. |
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Mark Mansueto
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2008 12:31 pm
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Eric Barker wrote: |
Mark,
I have a GS that I'd like to round also. Could you post a picture of yours? I don't have a round nose bar to use as a model and would like to see what you did.
Thanks |
Eric, as you can see I rounded mine but not like a bullet bar, only enough to glide across the strings without getting snagged. The end is rounded the same amount as my custom bar that I've been using for 25 years.
The top of the handle is now lower and my finger sits flatter on top, and the side contours are cut deeper.
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Eric Barker
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2008 6:27 pm
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Mark,
Thanks, for the pictures. I think that would work great for me. I'll give it a try.
Eric |
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Dave Sky
From: Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2008 4:36 am
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Mark wrote:
Eric, as you can see I rounded mine but not like a bullet bar, only enough to glide across the strings without getting snagged.
Hi Mark,
What did you use to round off the bar?
Thanks,
Dave |
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Mark Mansueto
From: Michigan, USA
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Dave Sky
From: Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2008 7:50 pm
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Thanks Mark!
Yes, I was going to use a file!
Since I don't have a bench grinder, maybe a custom order is the way to go. |
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