My Fender 800 Copedent

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 3 Jan 2008 11:41 am

After trying 5 or 6 different copedents, I've finally settled on one that gives me what I need (at least for now) to get through most situations which would come my way. Bear in mind that I'm not playing any kind of Nashville country music or even jazz. At some point I'd probably like to incorporate some more sophisticated changes to enable me to get altered chords. but not yet.

I've tried variations on the Mooney copedent, I've tried Herb Remington's A6, I've tried C6, but this is where I'm at and going to stay for now. I've got the materials to add another pedal, but I will stick with 4 and 1 for now (I still have 1 unused pull on the 4th pedal). I think I may next add a 5th pedal lower from E to D on string 1.

The 10th string C# can easily be retuned, but having the C# enables me to accomplish some nice Rock and Roll moves.

Aaron Harms · Post by **Aaron Harms** » 3 Jan 2008 6:52 pm

Hey Mike,

I'm really jealous of your 800, if it lets you have more than one pull per string--my 400 doesn't at the moment

Being able to pull that high E to F and F# is something i wanted for mine, but just can't do without some extra work.

I assume you feel like you'd use the raise from F# to G# rather than lowering G#'s to G? I love being able to grab a minor chord in root position, but I tend to need more chords in quick succession than what it seems like you're needing. IF you add that other pedal, I'd be hardpressed to not do the G lowers

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Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 3 Jan 2008 7:28 pm

Aaron, with the Mooney copedent I was using, there was a G# to G pedal. It was a nice change to have. I thought of having that on the knee, but I want the raise to F for now. If I ever went with a high G# again, this would be my 5th pedal. If I add a 5th pedal, but keep the high E, I'll probably lower it to D.

In the one that I've settled on for now, it's easy enough for me to move out of root position and mash pedals 1, 2 and 3 for the minor (missing the 9th, though). I also can accomplish a root position minor with an 11th by pushing pedal 4 halfway and pedal 2.

J Fletcher · Post by **J Fletcher** » 4 Jan 2008 9:11 am

Well you certainly are carving out your own territory there! Coming from a guitar background myself, I miss the low end with the modern E9th tuning. It's hard to not fall into E9th cliche licks, they are just so easy. Of course the E9th tuning is very versatile and has a lot of complexity, but some of the signature licks are played after the first day or so.
Your lack of a high G# would sure make it hard to play any Buck Owens!...Jerry