'' Emmons Steel Company ''

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 13 Aug 2016 7:57 am

I feel FAR more sorry for Mr. Sprouse and the people like him.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 13 Aug 2016 8:09 am

Bless your heart.

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 13 Aug 2016 9:00 am

The old Who song was Magic Bus.

Buddy outlasted the guitars. All this reminds me of everything Marvin Stegall had to say about it in 2005. It was a riot.

Dave Dube · Post by **Dave Dube** » 13 Aug 2016 10:04 am

Charlie, That thread saw the discovery of the octapost a strange denizen of the internet. Funny though, in the midst of it all there was a prophetic claim that things were not well at Emmons company. Dumb luck?

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 13 Aug 2016 10:16 am

Well, I didn't find anything dumb or lucky about Emmons with regard to the flap, just that he acquitted himself pretty well in his posts,
but that octapost... Zap him in the eye again!
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But I did check it out. Mr. Emmons said of the business and Ron Jr., "The company is his baby now and heâ€™s doing everything possible to meet his obligations. I believe heâ€™ll do fine if you stay out of his way."

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 13 Aug 2016 10:22 am

I'm editing my comment for content. I will just let the situation speak for itself.

Steve Spitz · Post by **Steve Spitz** » 13 Aug 2016 1:07 pm

I'm with Lane and Kevin on this one.

My sympathy goes to the victim who got burned, not the one who took their money.

If it was your dough, would you be describing it as " mistakes were made " ?

Dave Dube · Post by **Dave Dube** » 13 Aug 2016 2:38 pm

Charlie? Huh?

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Edit: Ah never mind

Dave Stroud · Post by **Dave Stroud** » 13 Aug 2016 2:49 pm

Just to be clear, Emmons is no longer making guitars, right?

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 13 Aug 2016 2:51 pm

Yes and no. Some dealers are building Emmons guitars that they sell. But I don't think Ron Lashley is producing guitars, just taking money.

Dave Stroud · Post by **Dave Stroud** » 13 Aug 2016 2:57 pm

By "building emmons guitars", you mean buying the parts and assembling them?

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 13 Aug 2016 3:25 pm

Or going to the Lashley shop, making the Emmons parts themselves, and then building the guitars.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 13 Aug 2016 11:11 pm

Lane Gray wrote:Or going to the Lashley shop, making the Emmons parts themselves, and then building the guitars.

I thought the shop was no more - now an HVAC company.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 14 Aug 2016 5:12 am

Yes, but the machines went to, presumably, the Lashley home.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 14 Aug 2016 5:55 am

Lane,
How about a picture of your Emmons and tell us of your 1st hand experiences. The curious minds want to know.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 14 Aug 2016 7:42 am

Until my wife left her job, I'd been in talks to purchase a new SD-12 Universal push-pull. Obviously, losing an income will postpone a purchase larger than my last 4 cars combined. I do hope to get it built.
I've not seen my D-10 push-pull in 26 years (it's still legally mine, but burglars took possession).
How about YOU providing evidence of the Lashleys delivering guitars as promised?

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 14 Aug 2016 10:00 am

Erv Niehaus wrote:Lane,
How about a picture of your Emmons and tell us of your 1st hand experiences. The curious minds want to know.

You know Erv. This CRAP is getting old. So what that you were one of the fortunate one's who didn't get burned. There are far more posts that come up on here that informs people (even people that don't own an Emmons) of how they got burned. Not that you did it, but dealings with Emmons when Ron Sr. was around, can not be included in the rants. The company was good then. It's Ron Jr. that sent the company to it's grave.

So, it doesn't matter if we have had personal experiences with the Emmons company or not. I would assume that there are many like me, who are tired of you saying that.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 14 Aug 2016 6:38 pm

Erv Niehaus wrote:I prefer 1st hand information. Not 2nd hand hearsay.

Erv, for your information, Buddy's comments are not "heresay", since he made those comments himself, right here on this public forum. And if you think that Buddy expressing himself about the raw deal he got was "throwing dirt", I feel sorry for you, because it indicates you have more respect and admiration for the defunct company than you do for Buddy himself.

I posted the quote because a lot of the members here weren't around 10 years ago, and I feel they have the right to know some history of what went on behind the scenes.

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 15 Aug 2016 1:43 am

Donny Hinson wrote:Buddy's comments are not "heresay", since he made those comments himself...I posted the quote because a lot of the members here weren't around 10 years ago, and I feel they have the right to know some history

I'm one of them, and the picture I get from following this sad tale from a distance over the last 3 or 4 years is of a son coming under pressure to take over the family business without having inherited all the necessary talent. It can happen in any line (music, sport, industry) where the son has the acquired knowledge but not the same combined passion and acumen that grew the brand from the ground up.

Just guessing, which maybe I shouldn't. Any sympathy for Lashley Jr would depend on whether he is fundamentally dishonest or just out of his depth in the business world. If I'm way off I know I can count on being put straight, probably by several people with different opinions!

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 15 Aug 2016 3:25 am

All things considered, R Jr is a very savvy Steel technician and knows these guitars inside and out, but thats different than business 101 and business practices.

I do not recall anyone saying they paid for and waited a year or more for an instrument and when it arrived it was a piece of junk.

If indeed someone indeed received a piece of junk after waiting a long time they should say so.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 15 Aug 2016 5:16 am

Tony, did you read the tale of the guitar Shawn Sprouse received at the courthouse?

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 15 Aug 2016 5:51 am

Lane Gray wrote:Tony, did you read the tale of the guitar Shawn Sprouse received at the courthouse?

Lane No , not aware, is this someone who received junk ? Where would I find it as I would certainly be interested in the read.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 15 Aug 2016 5:59 am

Bottom of this page. Let's see anyone defend Ron's conduct.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... &start=150

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 15 Aug 2016 6:06 am

Yes Lane thx, I actually found it and remembered the entire story. I even responded !

Thx for the link though. What a mess.

I wonder, did Shawn keep the guitar ? Fast reading thru stated there may have been a couple of last minute things Ron didn't quite finish, did we ever learn the final disposition from Shawn ?

And agreed, no way can conduct like that be defended, certainly not by me. My only point in this continued saga is that they are still fine instruments in spite of the conduct.

Too bad, if ya think about it there was no earthly reason for this Co to go under other real poor management. They certainly had the history, the name , the product and the buyers ! They had people sending them money for something they wouldn't get for a year ! Yipes !

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Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 15 Aug 2016 6:48 am