I notice that the members who spotted the hoax are mostly long-time players with lots of experience. I can only assume that members who did not spot the hoax are fairly recent players and might be easily impressed, or maybe they simply believe everything they see and hear on the internet.
Doug, that seems to just continue divisiveness here. Saying about "fairly recent" players "maybe they simply believe everything they see and hear on the internet" and that they "might be easily impressed" seeems...to me...to imply that newer players are not smart enough to notice video problems; it has nothing to do with the playing. It doesn't personally hit me since I think it is a hoax (although one where the guy prerecorded the part, as mentioned - what, do you guys think he hired someone else to play it?)
You seem to be making your own pronouncement of a definition of "spotting the hoax" if you're tossing Donny in with "recent players" by association. In my case, I'm a "recent player" on steel maybe, but 40 years of guitar gives you a pretty good perception of "air guitar" videos - I picked it up, but with a similar observation to Donny's - so where do we fit in your attempt at arbitrarily grouping the relative observational skills of players?
Some other "recent players" are as I recall are longtime musicians "recent" only to steel - don't assume only your long-time steel buddies are the only ones with enough experience or qualifications to pick up on this stuff. Sheesh, I had both my sons - 25 and 12, both guitar players not not steel players - watch it and come to the same "prerecorded" conclusion I did with no prompting from me. My wise, a non-musician, non-tech person, "video-camera challenged", saw the same thing.
You seem almost angry at people who don't agree precisely with your position...and it's posts like that last one that just seem to further push the "them and "us" attitude. The more upset you get at differing opinions...especially by newer players...by tossing out thiny-veiled insults (the some" and "most" attempts at tempering things just aren't worth much when the post was made at all), the more you maintain the "we experienced players are the only ones whose opinions have value" attitude that seems so darned common around here.
And this:
Our discussion should now focus on Why some people feel the need to cheat, steal the work of another player and take credit for it.
...has a two pronged, insulting intent. Unless you can PROVE the guy stole the recorded take you're on thin ice, and IMO WAY out of line. It doesn't matter who YOU are - you're now accusing someone of musical plagarism without any proof - you seem to think your opinion (with no supporting FACTS) and "status" gives you the right to now play lawyer or something.
Plus I don't recall it being your thread, -so who appointed you in charge of making a pronouncement that the subject matter should be changed?
I expect someone will probably reply with some version of "we on the forum don't think you respect or listen to experienced players" - however, do. I just don't agree with posts that further stregnthen the "demilitarized zone" between some experienced players who chest-puff and newer players (or ones outside the "established norm - especially when they accuse a player who apparently isn't a member and can't defend himself.
When you essentialy "execute" someone without knowing any facts or details, it's just lame IMO.
