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Bob Grado

 

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Holmdel, New Jersey
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2007 5:03 am    
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I'm having a problem when playing live getting decent tone with my POD XT ( through a Nashville 1000). The tone I'm getting is way to "thin" in my opinion, especially with the distortion settings.

I was wondering if putting the SGBB in the loop would correct it.

Has anyone ever tried the SGBB with the POD XT?

Thanks,
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Tim Harr


From:
Dunlap, Illinois
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2007 8:06 pm    
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Do a search on POD xt here on the SGF...

You may need to adjust your POD (especially the setting that deals with WHAT you ae plugging your POD into ..Direct, Combo front, Pwr Amp in, etc..) there are so many variations... It took me a lot of trial and error to get the sound I liked.

E mail me your settings and I will be able to help you.. I get a GREAT sound with my PODxt either through a NV 112 or my Webb 614-E.

The SGBB sounds and is most effective when used before the VP and POD.. You will plug your PSG directly into the SGBB and then to the VP.

Do some reading here:

http://www.steelguitarblackbox.com


Tim
sfcharr@hotmail.com
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T. C. Furlong


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Lake County, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 10 Apr 2007 8:47 pm    
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You may want to listen to the MP3s I posted over in Steel Players. A chap from England asked to hear a track I recorded using a POD XT with and without a Black Box in front of it.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107290

TC
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Tim Harr


From:
Dunlap, Illinois
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2007 4:33 am    
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BTW, I use the PODxt Live which is the same as the PODxt except it is a 2 space rack unit that has a few more i/o patching options.
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Jack Stoner


From:
Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2007 6:28 am    
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What programs are you using with the POD XT?

I use one, but only use it for "effects only", no amp or speaker emulation as I run mine between the volume pedal and my Nashville 112 input. It does not "color" or change the tone of my guitar in any way.

If you use amp modeling and speaker modeling and then the EQ in an amp, etc it can become muddied up.

The effects only programs I use are on my web site and can be downloaded and installed in a POD XT with the Line 6 edit program. http://www.gulfcoaststeelguitar.com/podxt.htm

Right click on any program then Left click on Save Target As and it will download and save the program to whatever location you select for downloading.

I've had good feedback on these programs.
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Bob Grado

 

From:
Holmdel, New Jersey
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2007 7:23 am    
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Thanks Tim.. Sorry for the late reply I'll email those settings as soon as I can. I appreciate the help.

T.C. thanks for pointing me towards the comparison mp3 link. I gave it a listen through my pc speakers and you sound great. I can't wait to hear you through my Bose headphones when I get home.

Jack.. Thanks for the link I'll download your settings and give them a try.

I decided to order the SGBB .. the check is in the mail.
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Dave Van Allen


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Souderton, PA , US , Earth
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2007 9:02 am    
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Be sure you ordered the left-handed one Bob... Wink
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Buck Dilly

 

From:
Branchville, NJ, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2007 9:51 am    
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I have used my PODxt with three or more amps. They all sound good. First I make sure the clean settings are working well through the amp. I had a difficult time getting great sounding distorted sounds for the steel on the XT; but I think I finally figured it out. Bear in mind that guitar players are always looking to enhance/increase sustain while getting and overdriven sound. Pedal Steel has plenty of sustain; so we are mostly looking for that nice, guitar-like harmonic distortion or crunch. Set your amp for a volume close to live.
1) Leave the stomp button off to start with and keep the Compressor/Gate on but set for low or zero level of compression (but keep it on- you may need some gain out of it now or later).
2) Although I like Line 6 JTM-45, there are a few others that are great. So start with that one.
3) Start with the drive level at about 9 o'clock- You don't need a lot- remember you already have enough sustain.
4) Tweak the tones until you are happy.
5) To get it a little more over the top, set the Stomp for Screamer and keep the drive and tone low. Watch the volume.
You don't need a whole lot of Drive to make this sound good. I actually use my Plastic MatchBro slide or a Stevens slide in order to reduce sustain. THis let me simulate dirty Rhythm guitar. Very Handy in a band context. Your guitarist will really appreciate the rhythm support.
The "British J-800" is good too, but it is edgier and crunchy. I have used these setting in the studio for lap steel as well.
Another POD tip: If you are getting a clipped sound or if the POD reads: "clip"- Turn the Channel Volume down and if you cant get enough gain, raise the gain from the Compressor setting. It won't clip at all. These are great units.
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Joey Ace


From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2007 10:08 am     Error
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"BTW, I use the PODxt Live which is the same as the PODxt except it is a 2 space rack unit that has a few more i/o patching options."


Tim,
I suspect you meant the PODxt Pro.
That's the rack mount unit.

The PODxt Live is a floor unit.
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Bob Grado

 

From:
Holmdel, New Jersey
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2007 3:14 am    
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Thanks alot Buck..I'll give your settings a try this weekend. DVA.. If the SGBB enables me to get half the tone you get I'll be happy.
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Tim Harr


From:
Dunlap, Illinois
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2007 4:10 am    
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Joey,

You are correct!
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