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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2007 3:17 pm    
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Since I don't know all the ways to use this lever I ask...
Is there any reason Rolling Eyes why I should not lower 10th string C-B on that same lever. Mostly because together w P6 I would get a F7#9 on strings 9 8 6 4 and a B13 on strings 10 8 6 4 in the same position. Very nice to have that b5 subst chord in the same position
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Herb Steiner


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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2007 3:57 pm    
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I use the lever frequently to get a minor/Maj7 chord, or a minor/Maj9 based on the 9th string root tone. Having a B note in the bass register would interfere with that.

However, those are good chords you can get with the examples you gave. I might give it a try myself.
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2007 4:47 pm     interesting
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You would also have a B7b9 on strings 10 8 7 6.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2007 2:08 am    
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I lower both my A's with RKR, and one of the main uses I get is in conjunction with P5 and P6 - I get an open Ab 7th chord. (This gives you a G7th chord at the 11th fret, for example - if you have another lever that lower the 5th string G to F, you get a Ab 7th chord leading to a Ab 6th chord).

P5 ALSO raises the 10th string C to D, in my setup at least. This note is unusable in the Ab chord - a #5 in the bass? Evil Twisted That's modern....
So, if you did your proposed change, AND lowered the bottom A on the same lever, in theory the D raised up by P5 would lower to a very useful Db. It might require a compensator or some tuning adjustment to fudge it in there, but it's an idea worth a try. I don't know what kind of music you're playing that would need the low, closed-voicing chords - you'd have to fight for sonic room with a keyboard or rhythm guitar, but it might work great in a solo or jazz trio kind of gig, and who doesn't need more chords? Always? Very Happy
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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2007 11:29 am    
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It's also good for a really jazzy augmented chord, both with and without P5. Great for passing chords. Can't live without it.

I'd also hate to lose the low D on P5 with that change.

Try it with P5 and the KL that lowers the high C to B! Cool
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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2007 12:51 am    
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I see that lowering 10 to B & 4 to Ab on the same lever would mess up the D7b9 found on strings 10 7 5 4 (P5 & 4th str to Ab) but I can probably live with that since I can find the same voicing on strings 9 6 4 3 w P6 & 3rd string C-B. My music don't use a lot of strumming or low register close voiced chords. It is more using a certain voicing in the top register w a different bass note or open voiced chords where the top interval is anything from a perf 4th to a b7 interval.

Antoher voicing that I also like is the 69 voicing found w P6 & (halfpedal)P4 on strings 6 5 3 2 or 8 5 3 2 on the same fret. Eb69 and Ab69 on open strings.

My D10 has the Buddy Emmons setup w 4 kneelevers. For the moment I have 1 additional pull on the Kneelever that lowers 4th string A-Ab ( & 10 C-B )
Moving the 10th lower to the Right knee and lower 10 & 3 C-B instead would interfere w a combination I use w P5 so that would not feel right for me.
Bengt Erik
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