Ray Price song

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 5 Jan 2005 10:07 am

I'm looking everywhere for a clip of "You Took Her Off My Hands",,,,I just can't remember exactly how it goes! (must be my age,,66 yesterday)

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 5 Jan 2005 2:54 pm

Sonny; "you took her off my hands(now please take her off my mind)" is on the "Burning memories/Touch my Heart" project release by audium
found here>Click here for full CD release
Here's a little sample of fiddle and Buddy Emmons doing the turnaround> Click Here
Ricky

Roger Edgington · Post by **Roger Edgington** » 5 Jan 2005 4:14 pm

Sonny, That is maybe my very favorite turn around. I can't believe how clean BE did that. Anyone know if it was done on the Emmons or was he still using the Sho-Bud?

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 5 Jan 2005 5:30 pm

Hey Roger; it was recorded in 1964. Buddy Recorded Night Life with his Sho-bud in 1963 and pretty much the birth of the Emmons pedal steel was 1964 and it really sounds like a 1964 wraparound Emmons on that track; so that's my guess> The Emmons Pedal Steel.
Ricky

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 5 Jan 2005 6:01 pm

But Ricky, Buddy said he had Shot fix his permanent so that he could put those two strings on top, after that recording. They started on the bass side. It confuses me sometimes when a timeline is concerned. Buddy which was it?

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 5 Jan 2005 7:33 pm

Craig; I don't follow what your saying at all> sorry.
Can you be more specific of what song your talking about after what recording??
Night life WAS recorded by Buddy Emmons on his Sho~bud in 1963 and the first Emmons pedal steels came out in 1964 and that's what Buddy played; and "you took her off my hands" was recorded in Dec.1964, so I'm pretty sure Buddy recorded with an Emmons.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 05 January 2005 at 07:34 PM.]

Gary Carriger · Post by **Gary Carriger** » 5 Jan 2005 8:00 pm

Roger,
Ditto on that. I used to listen to this song on a local Cen Tex jukebox in 1964...long before I took up steel. This solo (as well as a solo on Duane Eddy's C&W album of the same time frame) inspired me, and motivated me to eventually start playing steel.
It was not until several years later that the player of both was was some guy named Emmons. Thanks for the inspiration, Buddy.
Gary

Richard E. Lee · Post by **Richard E. Lee** » 5 Jan 2005 8:01 pm

Sonny, according to AOL, "music/RayPrice"..that song you are refering to was on an album "Buring Memories"..and possibly, "The HonkeyTonk Years"..Burning Memories shows being released in 1964. Ricky has it right..and the month is not shown..just says.."released 1964". Whether it the ablum has been transfered over to a CD version..I can't tell from the information here..Hope this helps

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 5 Jan 2005 8:45 pm

Ricky it makes sense. I guess I don't understand Buddy's statement about having a permanent Bud that he put the F# and D# on as 9 and 10. Then when he got the chance had them put on as 1 and 2. Does that mean that the first Emmons was that way? The way I understood it he played the song with the strings in position 9 and 10. That's when he realized what an asset it was to have them. maybe I have it backwards.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 5 Jan 2005 10:01 pm

The way I understood it he played the song with the strings in position 9 and 10.

What song??

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 6 Jan 2005 1:38 am

Not trying to be a wisea$$ here, but You Took Her Off My Hands was recorded on September 26th 1962 in a session at 2p.m-5p.m. It was Buddy's first session with Ray and the guitar was a D10 permanent Sho Bud and it was the first time he used the chromatic strings in the studio ( in the 9 & 10 string slots ). Changing a copedant on a permanent Sho Bud is more than a hassle, that's why those two strings went to 9 and 10 at first.

jess dodson · Post by **jess dodson** » 6 Jan 2005 3:07 am

Go to Pedal Steel ...who created the E9th when and why page one.....scroll down to Buddy

Bill Stafford · Post by **Bill Stafford** » 6 Jan 2005 3:13 am

And should you desire to obtain the tab, r-tracks-with and without steel parts, Herby Wallace has a great rendition of this song on one of his productions. HIghly recommended.

Thanks,

Bill Stafford

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 6 Jan 2005 4:19 am

Ricky the song in question is," You Took Her Off My Hands". Now we know that the song was recorded in 1962 so it would have been the permanent as I thought. Wow, I got something right. In all honesty, till I knew the recording dates and saw the guitar, I always thought the Night Life album was done with an Emmons. I was sure suprised when I found out different. Buddy's playing sounded so close. By the way ,Thanks Jussi.[This message was edited by Craig A Davidson on 06 January 2005 at 04:20 AM.]

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 6 Jan 2005 4:28 am

This came from the big "E"'s posting:

As it turned out, I liked the sound but a recording session with Ray was scheduled before I could get to Shot, so I recorded "You Took Her Off My Hands" with the strings in the 9th and 10th positions. Had I been playing a road guitar with a changeable mechanism, I would have originally structured the tuning as it is today and the bottom string controversy would have never existed.

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 6 Jan 2005 5:42 am

You're welcome Graig! Btw, the other song recorded in the session was Walk Me To The Door. It was also the first session where Ray started experimenting with violin section.

Roger Edgington · Post by **Roger Edgington** » 6 Jan 2005 7:37 am

It blows me away to find out Buddy did that with the chromatics in the 9,10 position. I've seen several guitars set up like that and even tried to play one. Best I recall, it was hard to keep strings from rattling as the 8th string was so much higher than 9,10. Man, what a set of hands. We didn't yet have guaged nut rollers if you had rollers at all. It was pretty common back then to use the brass string end balls for rollers.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 6 Jan 2005 9:22 am

Sorry guys I was going by this>
<pre>
Artist
Ray Price

Album
Burning Memories

Release Date
Dec 21, 1964

Recording Date
1964

Label
Columbia
</pre>
Thanks Jussi.
And if Jussi says so; than IT BE.
Way cool.
Ricky

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 6 Jan 2005 9:51 am

Ricky Dude my friend, I know very little, I merely just retype the information I've read somewhere else

But this particular topic ( evolving of E9 ), artist ( Ray ), steel player ( Big E ), Sho Bud permanent ( do I have one? Oh yeah!!! ) is just something that fascinates me. [This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 06 January 2005 at 09:59 AM.]

Buddy Emmons · Post by **Buddy Emmons** » 6 Jan 2005 2:09 pm

Roger,
Yes it was extremely awkward playing back and forth across the neck but I had a bit of luck on my side because of the song being in the key of F, which allowed me to play the solo on the 13th fret.

Walk me to the door, the first song on the session, didn’t lay well melody wise for the new tuning and I was wondering what kind of melody it would take to get it off the ground. The next song was You Took Her Off My Hands. When I heard Ray sing the notes F, E, D, and C, I knew it wouldn’t get any better than that so I went for it.

I still feel the tension in the solo every time I hear it. I was so excited that I got through without a mistake, I forgot whether we were going to the bridge or another verse. I didn’t want to blow the track so I stopped playing before I should have and the notes sound clipped. I still prayed that they would take that cut because I didn’t want to go through the pressure again, and fortunately they did. Later, they overdubbed strings and bailed me out going into the bridge.
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Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 6 Jan 2005 5:21 pm

Ricky, It's cool to be a little off. I have been for years. It is a great album no matter when it was done. Walter Haynes is also on tha album cause Buddy was out with a broken leg if I remember correctly. Possibly from what I heard it involved a balcony jump.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 6 Jan 2005 5:58 pm

Thanks, E. Interesting thing about that arrangement, the fiddle ride (before Buddy's solo) follows the chord progression

<pre>Bb Bb F F
Bb Bb G7 C7</pre>

which never occurs in the vocal, or any other part, of the song. We Central Texas pickers... Loessberg/Flores/Trevino/Steiner/Overbey/et.al.... follow the Price arrangement pretty closely.

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Roger Edgington · Post by **Roger Edgington** » 6 Jan 2005 6:52 pm

Herb,
You can sure add me to that list. Those great songs are etched in pretty deep. I wish we did more of them.
Roger

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 6 Jan 2005 7:59 pm

Herb, What is the difference between that chord progression and the first part of the bridge/chorus? Both go to the 4 to the 1 to the 4 to the 2 to the 5.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 6 Jan 2005 8:11 pm

Craig
The chord progression on the vocal bridge is
<pre>Bb Bb F F
Bb Bb F C7 (break) C7</pre>
so there's no 2 dominant in the vocal. The 2 dominant is only present in the fiddle part. A close listen to the recording will reveal that, and also Buddy's "cut short" solo.

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