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Topic: New MSA Millenium or the next 5 conventions? |
Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 11:37 am |
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I want a new MSA Millenium, but the only way I could afford it would be to miss the convention for the next 5 years.
It's a hard decision. I love going to the convention. It's inevitably the high point of the year.I love hearing all the great players and seeing friends from other parts of the country that I only see there, as well as meeting new people every year.
But once it's over, all I have is the memory of a great time. A new instrument would be there every day for the rest of my life.
It has to be one or the other. I simply can't afford both.
What would you all do? |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 11:52 am
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Hi Mike,
I've had the same thought.
Airfare=$250 at least from Portland.
Room at Millenium or Harvey=approx $225
Meals=approx $80 for the long weekend.
CD's + Toys= avg. $100.
So I'm thinking I spend about $600 to go to St.Louis, and the same for Dallas, plus I've been going to the Chattanooga show, which is in a similar price range.
I coulda stayed home and bought a new steel evey couple years.
But, like this forum... I'm addicted!!!
I don't really need a new steel though, and I count gig money plus any overtime I can work as "convention funds".
My reccomendatin to you is, either put it on a card or get on the MSA financing plan.
Get that steel now and worry about paying for it later!
It's The American Way/Dream!!!
Don't let BinLaden win! 
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Paul Warnik
From:
Illinois,USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 12:11 pm
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| Mike P-I too am very interested in getting a MSA Millenium-D-10-that is why I am selling off numerous vintage resos from my collection-I have a new forum friend who lives nearby who bought one of the guitars that was on display at Scotty's-he has graciously offered to let me borrow the guitar to check it out-what I was wondering about is what kind of pickups to get with it-I know that the E-66 is a popular standard-but I already have several vintage Emmons P/P guitars from that era that naturally have THAT SOUND-so I was thinking maybe some humbuckers would sound nice! |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 12:37 pm
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Mike
Where can you buy a new MSA for the price of 5 conventions? |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 12:46 pm
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| the only way I could afford it would be to miss the convention for the next 5 years. |
Nah, that's not true, Mike. There are LOTS of ways you could afford it. You could start by selling off one of your MSAs and two of your expensive 6-string electric guitars. Then you could come over here and cut my lawn a few times, and you'd be just about there! |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 12:58 pm
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Jim, I have no intentiopn of selling either of my old MSAs, or any of my 6 stringers except the '67 Gretsch I listed here a while back. (I have only 2 or 3 guitars that are worth a lot of money anyway. All my guitars are fine instruments, but most of them are not high dollar collactrables.)
Generally, it costs me about $1,000, give or take a hundred or so, every time I go to the convention. I can afford to go once a year, but there's no way I can do that and buy another guitar.
Decisions Decisions.........
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 2:07 pm
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While you're back East cutting Jim's lawn you can head North and shovel my snow.
I think missing 5 years of conventions is not a good idea, unless those 5 years are spread out over 10 or 15 years, as in skip every other one. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 2:13 pm
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Mike...I've been thinking alot about a new MSA too. Their low weight feature really answers all of my issues where airplanes are involved. Unfortunatly, a recent small windfall of mine is getting much smaller due to a capital gains nightmare, so I guess it's back to "Old Bessy" (my beloved Sho-bud) and only local steel gigs for me. Bummer!
I think MSA should just go ahead and call their new space age material "UNOBTANIUM" to keep guys like me from getting stuck on all these heartbreaking lofty ideas. 
Lemme know if you get one, I'd love to come over and check it out sometime!
sniff sniff[This message was edited by Rick Schmidt on 14 November 2002 at 02:19 PM.] |
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bob drawbaugh
From:
scottsboro, al. usa
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 2:50 pm
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| Mike, look at it this way. Think of all the bad service you would not have to suffer through at the Millenium hotel. But, think of all the fun hours you could have with the MSA Millenium. No question what I would do. Dump the Millenium hotel for five years. Mike go get that new MSA!!!! |
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Terry Edwards
From:
Florida... livin' on spongecake...
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 2:52 pm
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Hello Mike,
If you really want to do both, you will figure out a way!
Of course, money cannot buy memories and steel guitars will always be plentiful!
Get your butt out there and make some money playing some gigs or make a new CD for us to buy. Or better yet, get that new sphincter volume invention patented and mass produced. You're practically sitting on the money right now!!
Terry |
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 4:06 pm
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I think Jimbeau has the patent on the sphincter volume pedal!
To me the convention is not about the hotel -it is about people. And of course, steel. And the camaraderie that has come out of the conventions has done more for my steel playing and my enjoyment of the instrument than a new guitar ever has, or could. |
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autry andress
From:
Plano, Tx.
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 4:14 pm
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Mike: Enjoy your old MSA's as you will never wear them out. (Their paid for) & enjoy the
shows & the fellow ship.
I have played MSA for the last 20 years,
made a change & now I play a Fessenden & a
Derby & I am well pleased with the change.
Hope to see you again in Dallas. |
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John Hawkins
From:
Onalaska, Tx. on Lake Livingston * R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 4:24 pm
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Hey Guys ,
It is only money !!!! Enjoy life !!! Do
what makes you happy ! Us OLDER players need all the good times we can have NOW since we don't know what tomorrow may bring .
For you younger folks -- go ahead and spend the money for whatever you think you will enjoy most ! As I said --it is only money !
John |
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David Cobb
From:
Chanute, Kansas, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 4:42 pm
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| Mike, I've watched Deuce Bigelow three times and I'm starting to get ideas. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 5:13 pm
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| the camaraderie that has come out of the conventions has done more for my steel playing and my enjoyment of the instrument than a new guitar ever has |
So, Bob... does that mean you're now ready to sell me back my Fessy? I'm ready to take her back home, where she belongs... Will trade you a large amount of camaraderie for her, which will do far more for your enjoyment of the instrument than keeping her will. (Now where have I heard that before...?) |
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Souderton, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 6:37 pm
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Mike, if it's any help at all, I've NEVER been to the convention. I guess I just don't know what I'm missing... (and why I was one of the whiners when the webcast wasn't what I'd hoped for, for which I apologise again to those who slaved to make it a reality)
maybe that's why I vote for buying the guitar. If you don't like it, sell it and go to the convention next 4 years...or take it to the convention and sell it... or something...
Jimbeaux's lawn ain't big enough to help... now, mine...that's another matter.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 7:02 pm
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Nobody can make that decision but you! But as Jimminy Cricket told Pinnochio...
Let your conscience be your guide!
As for me personally, well...I'm at the age where I need "reinforcement" more than once a year. (LOL!)
My new D10 MSA will arrive next week!
By the way, along with the stock (E-66) pickups, I've also ordered the 710 and 910 pickups, so I'll give you my impressions of each in about a week. I'm also planning on a set of single-coils as soon as I can get them. As I've never changed pickups on any of my steels, it oughta be pretty cool. (It only takes 10 seconds to change them on the new MSA.)
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 8:36 pm
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Nice try Jimbeau!
Maybe for a hotel-load of camaraderie and a half interest in that new sphincter activated volume control device of yours......
In terms of my enjoyment of psg, I do have to say that the Fessy comes a close second to the conventions.
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Nov 2002 9:18 pm
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Yeah, man. You can have my sphincter, alright. Then can I get my guitar back??  |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 12:28 am
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Dave, if you've never been to a convention, you truly don't know whar you are missing. Words cannot convey how wonderful they are, and you owe it to yourself to go at least once. I can truthfully say some of the most joyful moments of my life have been spent there, and I am not alone. It is a truly wonderful experience.
First, we get to meet all our heros, and not just hear them play, but spend some time with tmem and get to know them a little as friends. I have a picture of Herb Steiner, Winnie Winston, Tom Morell, Jimmy Day and myself, taken by our fellow forumite Mike Johnstone, that I will treasure forever.
Second, we get to see all the different steels and in many cases try them out and see which ones we like. Do you want a hand made guitar? One made from pre-manufactured parts and assembled? lacquer finish? Mica? Wood neck? Aluminum? Whatever you want, you'll find it there. Maybe you think you want one brand but really would be happier with something else. If you go to the convention you'll see them all. you can also check out different bars, picks, etc.
Third, and perhaps most important, we get to meet many of our fellow rank and file players, some from the forum, others whom we just happen to meet by chance, and form special freindships. There are many people who live in different parts of the country, or other countries, who only get to see each other at the convention (or some other steel show.) For me at least, seeing these friends is more important than seeing and hearing many of the great players on the show, (most of whom I seen and heard before.)
Bob really does have a point.
At the same time, I did not attend any steel shows in 2000, opting instead to use the money to buy three 6 string guitars. (A baritone guitar, an electric sitar, and a hollow body Jazz box.) Today I am enjoying and using all three instruments. The hollow body is one of my favorite guitars, and I play both the baritone guitar and sitar in my band. I am also in the process of recording another CD and have used all three. Especially the baritone and jazz guitars.
I missed going, and while it was happening I really wished I was there. But I made the right decision at that time.
But that was one convention, and I got 3 instruments. Now we're talking about 5 conventions for one instrument. It's a big dcecision. I will be giving this a lot of thought over the next few months. |
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Whip Lashaway
From:
Monterey, Tenn, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 6:14 am
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Mike
Consider yourself lucky that you could go every year thus far. I live about 7 hours drive from St Louis and I can't go EVERY YEAR. I've been to the ISGC 4 or 5 times. Between not having the $$ or having to play a gig. If I wanted a new rig it would be a no brainer. See you in 6 years Buddy!
Whip
PS; I do go to the Hall of Fame Fund raiser in Toledo every year. Jes and I go all the way back to when I was born. Plus it's only an hour away.
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Whip Lashaway
Sierra E9/B6 12 string
Sierra E9/B6 14 string
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 6:58 am
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MIke
What Terry and John says is so true. You will find a way to do both if you really want to. Get the new guitar and you *will* find a way to go if you really want to. I have watched my Mom go out on a limb for many new things over the years. She finds a way even tho it seems the money is not there. Get the guitar *now*, you don't know what the future will hold or how long the future will last for any of us!
bob |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 7:44 am
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"It has to be one or the other. I simply can't afford both."
On rethinking this, and not knowing your financial situation (fixed income, disabled, etc) it really sounds rather silly.
$1000.00/yr= $2.80 cents/day!
1 starbucks? 1 Big Mac?
Forgive me if this sounds mean, but I think this is more of a "justifying" decision than a "financial one
bob[This message was edited by Bob Snelgrove on 15 November 2002 at 03:46 PM.] |
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Frank Estes
From:
Huntsville, AL
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 8:27 am
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Can you say, "Part-time Job?" In one year's time at a part-time job, you could probably earn enough to pay for the MSA and at least 5 conventions too!
You really should try one out first to see if it is what you really like. I mean the MSA and not the job! 
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Frank Estes - 1978 Emmons D-10 8+7 #2441D
[This message was edited by Frank Estes on 15 November 2002 at 08:29 AM.] |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 15 Nov 2002 8:55 am
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Hey Frank,
I just visited your website and looked at those great photos of your kids. I think it's sweet that you named ALL of them after Paul Franklin.
As for the cover photo of you sitting at the rosewood Emmons, well... now, how can I put this discreetly... "I know Buddy Emmons. Buddy Emmons is a friend of mine. Son, you're no Buddy Emmons."
(Ah, but who is? I'll bet, on some days, even "E" wonders...)[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 15 November 2002 at 08:57 AM.] |
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