My new Lazy River Weissenborn!!!
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- Fred Kinbom
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My new Lazy River Weissenborn!!!
Dear all,
My custom made Lazy River "Weissenborn-style hollowneck" has finally arrived!
I ordered it from Rance back in July and it arrived three days ago! I'll get straight to the point - here are some photos:
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My custom made Lazy River "Weissenborn-style hollowneck" has finally arrived!
I ordered it from Rance back in July and it arrived three days ago! I'll get straight to the point - here are some photos:
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There'll be some video clips further down as well! Now, about this guitar...
Materials/features
My Lazy River is made from Sitka Spruce (top) and Black Walnut (back/sides). The rope binding is Maple/Black Walnut (I think). The custom features are:
- The mother-of-pearl fretboard inlays, which are my design.
- The fretboard and bridge are made of Black Walnut, instead of Rosewood (see my "rain forest friendly" note below).
- Bone bridge pins (this was the first time Rance used bone bridge pins, and he said they add "even more clarity" to the sound).
"Rain forest friendly"
Initially, I was going for either Honduran Mahogany or Sapele for the back and sides, but then I started thinking about deforestation and illegal logging problems in the third world. I discussed this with Rance - who was very happy that I cared about these issues - and he suggested going for Walnut, a North American wood, instead. After listening to recordings of Steinar Gregertsen's and Terry Vun Cannon's Spruce/Walnut Lazy Rivers, I decided to go for this option.
I also thought that it would look good with the fretboard and bridge matching the back and sides, so I asked Rance to use Walnut for these as well.
So my Lazy River is a "rain forest friendly" guitar!
Steinar tells me that his Spruce/Walnut Lazy River took about 2-3 months to open up, and that after that it just keeps sounding better and better. That's great to know, as this guitar sounds wonderful already!
It's a beautiful instrument! Thank you so much Rance!
Fred<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Fred Kinbom on 27 November 2006 at 07:08 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Fred Kinbom on 27 November 2006 at 07:08 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Fred Kinbom on 27 November 2006 at 07:09 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Here is a short video of me with my new Lazy River:
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And here I play another little tune on it:
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These clips are recorded with the camcorder's in-built mic - it of course sounds much better "in person".
So, here's another warm recommendation for the guitars built by Rance White!
Fred
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And here I play another little tune on it:
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These clips are recorded with the camcorder's in-built mic - it of course sounds much better "in person".
So, here's another warm recommendation for the guitars built by Rance White!
Fred
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It's a beautiful guitar, and I can only imagine what you'll sound like after it "opens up" a bit! Thanks for sharing.
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Original Weissenborns put the pins in a arc too, but the real reason is to help prevent cracks in the bridge and bridge plate. When the pins are in a straight line they can lead to a split along the grain line.
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Fred...That is one beautiful weissenborn style instrument...Rance really does great work...I just know that you will be happy. I may have to check into the bone bridge pins...very nice...I also love the inlay on the 1st fret(Your design?)...Terry .
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MikeD. that makes perfect sense.
I am working on an acoustic lap steel and considering the bridge and pin placement.
those beautiful pics of this guitar and Mike D's input will help me out.
love this forum.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Randy Reeves on 29 November 2006 at 12:54 PM.]</p></FONT>
I am working on an acoustic lap steel and considering the bridge and pin placement.
those beautiful pics of this guitar and Mike D's input will help me out.
love this forum.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Randy Reeves on 29 November 2006 at 12:54 PM.]</p></FONT>
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I had Rance build a spruce/walnut Weiss for me last year, I was also swayed partially by Steinar's clips on his web site. You will be very pleased with how the sound develops over the next few months. Liked your clips, very cool tunes, heard a little Nick Drake influence in the short vocal on the second clip.
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Fantastic! I'm glad to see a good musician getting a good instrument. I like that second song especially. Keep up the good work and enjoy that guitar!
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Thanks everyone!
First of all, I would like to correct my statement that Steinar's Lazy River "took about 2-3 months to open up": Steinar pointed out (on the IGS forum) that it was after 2-3 months that he started noticing a difference in the sound.
Terry V - I first decided I wanted "semi elipse" mother-of-pearl inlays, then at the last minute I thought a "V" shape on the first fret would be nice too. I think this has been done before though (a larger triangular shape on the first fret of some original Style 4 Weissenborns?). Thanks also Terry for sending me the mp3s of your Lazy River back in the summer - I'm very happy I decided on Black Walnut too!
Randy - make sure to keep us posted on the progress of your acoustic lap steel!
Arthur and Matt - many thanks! I'm glad you like my beginner's lap slide music!
Andy - both clips are in open D (DADF#AD).
Edward - yes, "The Ring" is a simple little tune indeed (first lap steel tune I wrote). It's funny you should mention it, as over on the IGS Forum someone started a thread suggesting that others record their own interpretations of "The Ring". Very interesting! So far a bottleneck resonator version and a great dub version with National Tricone in a minor key. Check it out here!
Many thanks again everyone!
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First of all, I would like to correct my statement that Steinar's Lazy River "took about 2-3 months to open up": Steinar pointed out (on the IGS forum) that it was after 2-3 months that he started noticing a difference in the sound.
Terry V - I first decided I wanted "semi elipse" mother-of-pearl inlays, then at the last minute I thought a "V" shape on the first fret would be nice too. I think this has been done before though (a larger triangular shape on the first fret of some original Style 4 Weissenborns?). Thanks also Terry for sending me the mp3s of your Lazy River back in the summer - I'm very happy I decided on Black Walnut too!
Randy - make sure to keep us posted on the progress of your acoustic lap steel!
Arthur and Matt - many thanks! I'm glad you like my beginner's lap slide music!
Andy - both clips are in open D (DADF#AD).
Edward - yes, "The Ring" is a simple little tune indeed (first lap steel tune I wrote). It's funny you should mention it, as over on the IGS Forum someone started a thread suggesting that others record their own interpretations of "The Ring". Very interesting! So far a bottleneck resonator version and a great dub version with National Tricone in a minor key. Check it out here!
Many thanks again everyone!
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I forgot to mention that my Lazy River is equipped with a K&K Pure Western Mini pickup. I had the chance to try it out at a gig on Tuesday night (local acoustic showcase):
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I play it through a K&K Pure preamp (but with EQ set pretty "normal") and then straight to the PA.
I was not very happy with my performance, but I am very happy with the guitar!
Cheers,
Fred
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I play it through a K&K Pure preamp (but with EQ set pretty "normal") and then straight to the PA.
I was not very happy with my performance, but I am very happy with the guitar!
Cheers,
Fred
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www.frockmusic.com
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