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<SMALL>Why on earth would I want to drop several more hundred dollars now to upgrade it </SMALL>
But, Jim, with all the money you're now making as a professional musician ... Image

Seriously, Bill's exactly right recommending a card reader for your digital camera images. I did that recently and I find it much more convenient than using Nikon's camera software. The card reader simply appears as another drive on your system.

Hmmm ... I haven't used Win 95/98 for a long time ... Bill, is that an issue, or are there drivers for the card readers?
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Thanks, guys. What exactly is a "card reader", how much do they cost, and how easy are they to install?

And, btw, Don, I'm not using Win95/98. I'm on Win2000, which is what got me into this mess in the first place!<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 28 January 2004 at 07:55 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Jim, if you're on Win2K there should be no problem with a card reader's compatibility.

What is it? Just a small device you can connect to your computer, typically thru a USB port into which you insert your camera's memory card, which then resonds by opening a window that shows the contents of the card as if it were a disk drive. With Win2k it should be that simple.

I paid about $49 Cdn, which is about $30 or so US$. Much handier than connecting the camera to the cptr, IMO.

BTW my camara uses the CompactFlash memory card format. There are others out there but I can't comment on how they work. The brand of card reader I bought (SanDisk) comes with many other formats and typically has slots for 2 different type mem cards.


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Your camera must be a type that uses removable memory cards. (Some early digital cameras do onot have removable memory cards.)

You take the memory card out of your camera and put it in the card reader.



You're not trying to do this with a film camera, are you? Image
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No, wise-acre. I may be dumb, but I ain't stoopid! Image

Yes, my DIGITAL camera does use removable memory cards. Only thing is, it also has a (smaller) internal memory, so I guess any photos on that wouldn't be able to come out...

I'm gonna try putting in the PII-333 first, if I can figure out how to get the old one out first!

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Jim;

If you're still able to, please check out this Intel webpage on Slot 1 mounting.
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/re/24592.htm

Regards<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 28 January 2004 at 11:22 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Ok Jimbeaux..I too have to take issue with ya...

You say your PC does all you need it to..

I say give it a little more time..

It won't do anything... Image

there are a few ways of getting your software moved over..

Get a new PC and network them both together..then before you drag and drop the old PC to the dumpster, drag and drop the files and programs over to the new PC..

OR.. possibly add your current hard drive to the new system as a slave drive...there may be some OP SYSTEM issues but I think you can over come them. Worse case is you can bring your current HD to a local geek and have them transfer everything except the OP System to another new (Cheap) drive and add that drive to your new system as a slave drive.This would clearly be the fastest way of doing it..

good luck..and don't forget to have fun while you're doing all this stuff..

t


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Ok, I've got good news and bad news (so what else is new?)...

First the good news: After bugging everyone I could think of about how to get the old chip out of my 'puter, I finally found time to make the drive out to the store where I bought it several years ago and where they offer free tech advice. They won't open your computer and touch anything but they were willing to let me open it and they would point and talk; good enough for me! Well, I did have to remove the heatsink with the the chip together and they came out pretty easily once you know which surfaces are supposed to move and which are supposed to stay behind! Duh! I bought a new heatsink too, for $7, and attached it to the new chip tonight (while wearing one of those grounding bracelets), which was easy, and then just snapped it into place. No problem! Duh, again!

I changed the jumper settings (even tho' the tech told me they get bypassed and I'd just need to set the new clock speed to 333 in the BIOS. Went to BIOS on startup, though, and never did find a place that looked like where I would change it from 233 to 333. (Anybody know exactly where that would be?)

Nevertheless, when I finally backed out of Setup mode and let the puter continue booting up, it showed the chip at 333! That's good news!

Now the bad news: My camera still didn't want to talk to my computer! So I thought maybe I should reinstall the camera software so it can get itself aligned with the new hardware properly, etc. (dunno if that's true; I just made that part up). So, I uninstalled the previous version and tried to reinstall it. Can't find my original disc for the s/ware but have some downloaded copies I got from Kodak's website. BUT: Every time I try to install the program, it automatically opens up my AOL! I keep closing AOL, and the installer keeps opening it up again! Over and over and over... and NEVER completes installation.

What's up with THAT? I've seen this problem before, but I sure don't understand it. Do you?

Thanks, dudes,
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Update: I found the original software and that installed successfully (without opening up AOL!) But I still can't get my camera talking to the computer... still working on it. This sux.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 01 February 2004 at 10:30 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Jim,

Do you have one of the Kodak "Easy Share" camera's? I have the 3 MegaPixel version with the craddle and it works great on my machine. Here are a few things to check...

1. Have you looked at the Kodak website for any tech updates on the product? Companies release "new" drivers and fixes ALL the time.

2. What happens when you go to "Device Manager" in Windows and find the camera device. Is there a Yellow warning icon for it? Are there any Yellow flags in Device Manager? (To get to device manager in Windows 2000, RIGHT Click on My Computer and then scroll to PROPERTIES, a window will open and select the "HARDWARE" tab at the top. Then select the button that says "DEVICE MANAGER").

3. If you can find the device in the device manager, then highlight it and select REMOVE. Then plug the camera in again to the computer and try and turn on the camera. Windows 2000 should start its plug n' play and find the camera.

Start there and let us know what happens.

Thanks!
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Thanks Mark. It was NOT listed in the Device Manager. So I just turned it on again, and got the same thing as described above... I've sent an email to tech support at Kodak, but whenever I've done that in the past, I get a canned reply that completely misses the point. They've got monkeys pounding out replies without reading the queries. Any other suggestions? Appreciate your help!
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I know that with my camera, if I don't have it in the "docking station" but rather just plugged in using the USB cable, I need to manually "turn on" my camera in order for Windows to see it. Have you done that?

If you have done that, I might be suspicious of the cable. Can you find another USB cable to use or is the connector proprietary to the camera?

Let me know...

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I don't have the cradle, but this cable has always worked for me in the past. It hasn't been bent up or subjected to any stress that I know of (unlike myself...) Yes, I do have to turn on the camera for the puter to see it and when I do that, it starts to see it, then seems to abort suddenly.

I noticed another stupid Kodak rule on their website: when using Win2000, you must install and use the software as a system "Administrator". Well, I ain't got no "system" to "Administrate"! It's just me and my machine. Nevertheless, I powered down and up again and at the greeting screen, changed my name to the "Administrator" line and entered the same old password I use for my regular name and it finished booting up (dunno why it didn't insist on a different password for the "Administrator"; maybe it's not really recognizing me as the Admin? Maybe there's something else I need to do to persuade it of that? I dunno...
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Jim,

OK, when you installed Win2K, you had to specify an "Administrator" password. It makes you specify one. Most people however, just click next and leave it blank. If you remember this, then "log off" of Win2K and then login as "Administrator" as the username and then enter your password. Either the one you specified at installation of Win2K or just leave it empty.

Then once you install as admin, goto Control Panel and double click "User Accounts". Then you will see a list of user accounts. Highlight "your account" and then hit properties. Then you get another window. Then goto the last tab called permissions and then select "other" for the radio button and then pull down "administrator" in the drop down menu. You will then neeed to hit "Apply" and then OK. It will require a reboot to make this change.

I hope that is your problem above. If not, I am almost out of ideas!

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FINAL RESOLUTION: Ok, I finally gave up on trying to get the Kodak software to ever work again. Screw it! I went to Staples and bought a $19 card reader and the thing works like a dream. Thanks for all your help, guys. This was quite an education along the way. Not only did I learn about card readers, but I learned how to remove and replace a computer chip, how to add RAM to my system, what a heat sink and fan unit is, how to replace it (after gluing it to the chip), how to reset the jumpers for the higher clock speed, and how to sign on to my computer as an Administrator. Pretty good education for $35 total.

This thread may now be closed, with my thanks to all participants.

Jimbeaux<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 04 February 2004 at 08:29 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Atta boy, Jimbeaux!
ANd you got some new terms for your crossword puzzle!


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