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Steel guitar amplifiers, effects, etc.

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Mike Brown
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Hartley Peavey and I frequently discuss what subjects are generated on this forum and we are very interested in what you want to see in a steel amplifier. How much power? What features? How should it be voiced, etc.?
We already know that it should be lightweight. We know that a 15" speaker used to be known as the "holy grail" for steel guitar applications. But, we also know that players have overwhelmingly approved the use of the 12" speaker that is used in the Nashville 112 amplifier. So, that tells us that there may be some other myths that can be proven false.

What we would like to know is what other features do you suggest that we include in a future amp? Any reasonable thoughts and suggestions can be taken into consideration for future projects so dream away, but don't get carried away. But, we do wish to hear from you. If you wish to send me a personal e-mail, my address is mikebrown@peavey.com Don't think that your ideas or suggestions are unreasonable. Fire away!

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Steve Hitsman
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Tubes.
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Jim Cohen
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Post by Jim Cohen »

How about building in a strobe tuner somewhere? (Of course, when the amp is set back behind you, it won't help much, but I'll let you figure that out, I'm too busy dreaming...)

Or... how about built in tilt-back legs so I don't need to carry a separate amp stand?<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 22 February 2006 at 02:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Jim, Just get a big spot mirror like the ones on the big trucks. I used to drive the big ones. Just a little humor!!
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Mike, the Nashville 112 is very good just the way it is. The only thing I would have changed on it would be to add a ground reversing switch.
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Line out; tuner out with mute switch; two channels (switchable with different EQ).

Thanks for asking.
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Post by Marlin Smoot »

Re-Issue the Session 400 and the LTD (Chrome knob)with 15's. Tube versions as an option would also be very cool.

Built in SM-57 behind the grill. Offer a few custom colors too, like White, Blonde, Red, Green, Blue...maybe even offer in custon color Mica.

Make an option where the amp top part can come off for recording sessions with direct recording outputs. XLR & 1/4 outputs.

Add a matching extension power cabinet for stereo. Offer a built-in SM-57 and 1/4 & XLR outs too. Offer Brads Steel Guitar Black Box installed but able to switch on and off. Offer the Mod kit also able to switch off and on.

Tilt Legs would be cool or something like that to tilt the amp but not on the outside, make them on the inside to hide them and keep the classic look.

Make sure it has the old style chrome knobs and don't make it look goofy with fake snake skin coverings.

Offer a matching Road Case.

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Post by John Cox »

The two things that would do it for me, built in tuner and delay of some sort. J.C.
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Post by Skip Edwards »

That clip-on remote control that came with the Session 500 was a nice touch. Maybe something like that again... it could control EQ, or FX, or maybe the whole shebang could be programmable?

How about a one-space rack mount stereo amp ...lightweight, of course, and speaker cabs tuned for steel...with a choice of either 12" or 15" spkrs, and open or closed backs. <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Skip Edwards on 22 February 2006 at 03:45 PM.]</p></FONT>
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I'm with Skip on the rack mount idea. Buy that man a coke. Image

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Post by Keith Cordell »

A Session 400 in a smaller chassis, or in Head form, and with a tube power section!
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Post by George Macdonald »

Charge $25.00 dollars more and include a cover. I'm still waiting for one I ordered [and paid for]on Jan. 6th. George
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Post by Ben Jones »

lightweight, all tube 100 watt amp head with reverb and nothing else, voiced for steel NO GAIN, lotsa headroom, for under $400. Like that new jcm800 clone peavy rock head, cept for steel Image

If you cant do an all tube power section how bout a built in tube pre? Slap a black box type thing in there?

In general:
I like things that do ONE thing well rather than 100 things poorly.

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Post by Jerry Van Hoose »

How about an amp with a empty single rack space for the effect or preamp of choice such as the new Dual Deltafex, Lexicon, etc? ....or.... a Nashville 112 or 1000 with added delay?
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Post by Michael Barone »

Make an input channel with much higher input impedance, and increase the impedance of the Pre-EQ Patch return. Like on a NV112, from 220K to about 500K or higher.

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Post by Mark Metdker »

Thanks Mike for giving us this opportunity to do this.

I'll give you my wish list. First off, I love the size and weight of the NV112, so it would be great to keep that approximate size.

Next, The main effects I use are Reverb and delay. But it would very very cool if several effects were built into the amp, not unlike some of the new Line 6 amps. It would be really cool if we could preset different settings and use a remote switch (either footswitch or something that could attach to a steel leg) to change our sound on the fly. This would all but do away with rack stuff, and stomp boxes. Flange, delay, reverb, chorus, leslie....on and on, you get the idea. That would be about the only amp that could replace my NV112 and RV-3 setup.

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Post by Mark Edwards »

I like the idea of a built in tuner also, how bout preset amp controls, just dial in what you want or use a card. You could have the Lloyd Green, or Buddy Emmons or whoever on a card or chip or preset your own, no more knobs. Thanx Mike for the oportunity to let us dream.
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I like the 112 just the way it is except the knobs need a little more protection and come with a cover.
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an updated tube fex with cache card and like newman settings with a px300 cab.im using a profex and a px300 with my sho-bud pro three and it sounds real good, DON.
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Yeah the consensus seems to be for a small Profex II type effects processor built into the N112 with a tuner, and remote controller which displays the effects and the tuner, which attaches to the leg of the steel!! And the amp should have balanced outputs for DI and studio applications.

Thanks for the opportunity for some input Mike - bewdy.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Paddy Long on 22 February 2006 at 08:06 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Post by Chris LeDrew »

A 112 with tubes and a nice, classic look to it - maybe a silver grill cloth with a funky script logo and chrome knobs. It could be the new vintage style steel amp that has lots of guts as well as aesthetic appeal.
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Post by Bill Moran »

Re issue the Vegas 400. If only on special order I think it would sell. In my opinion, I have never had a better steel amp. I have owned the Nashville,Session 400, Session 500, as well as other brands. I wish I had never sold my Vegas. Image

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Post by Jim Peters »

I use mine just like it is, but if your askin...Double the headroom and build in effects. Even the cheapeast practice amps have effects. Better knob protection. Thanks, JimP
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Post by Michael Hartz »

Modeling seems to be the thing anymore. Lots of players like myself are using Line 6 products(Pod,PodXT).How about designing a modeling amp with a 15" speaker that models classic Peavey steel amps like the old session 400, LTD 400, and even current amps such as the Nashville 400, Vegas 400, Session 500, Nashville 1000, and Nashville 112. You could even model other amps like the Shobud, Webb, Randall Steelman, Evans, and others. Put XLR direct outs on it, a host of modeled effects, and an optional extension cab for stereo. I should stop now, I'm starting to drool over the keyboard. Image
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Post by Al Terhune »

Include a cover. I'm such a Peavey fanatic, but to not include a slip cover to protect it from rain going to and from gigs or the studio is like selling a guitar with no case.

Protect the knobs better.

Both of these have been said, but I second and third them.

I'm not into effects, and I don't want to turn my neck back to tune from a built-in tuner, so adding them would take me off the list to pay extra for an amp that had them.

You know, the 112 is about perfect (except protecting the knobs and including a cover).

Al
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