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They might just as well have elimnated instrumental solo's from the mix.....when a musician started "playing", the audience used the "wasted" time to get another drink, or to catch up on the latest gossip, or to play grab-ass with someone's spouse, to "kill the time" until the "star" began singing again!
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Kevin-if it's on Letterman, it's one of the hot new acts-it's not just his show, that's what everything sounds like now.
Of course, Dave can also be counted on for getting plenty of country on the air, WITH live steel. (If you'll notice, the guitar player in the band has a steel set up off to one side all the time).
But the new rock acts you see aren't dumbed down for his show-that's what's selling these days.
But you never know-sometimes he strikes gold. I heard the Jayhawks on there for the first time about 5 months ago and went out and bought 3 of their CD's. GREAT alt country type stuff, killer harmonies, and fine steel work.
JB
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Of course, Dave can also be counted on for getting plenty of country on the air, WITH live steel. (If you'll notice, the guitar player in the band has a steel set up off to one side all the time).
But the new rock acts you see aren't dumbed down for his show-that's what's selling these days.
But you never know-sometimes he strikes gold. I heard the Jayhawks on there for the first time about 5 months ago and went out and bought 3 of their CD's. GREAT alt country type stuff, killer harmonies, and fine steel work.
JB
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Are you sure about what's selling JB?
According to the sales figures we get in the UK the market for "NU-METAL"- that's people like Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit- just about vanished last year.
I always classed that as pure generation gap music- "Mom hates it so it must be cool". I could never understand why anyone would want to play a track except as a weapon. It turns out that both bands actually sold more T shirts than CDs, so youngsters are maybe not so stupid after all.
Keep practicing those licks- The Darkness use twin lead lines!
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According to the sales figures we get in the UK the market for "NU-METAL"- that's people like Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit- just about vanished last year.
I always classed that as pure generation gap music- "Mom hates it so it must be cool". I could never understand why anyone would want to play a track except as a weapon. It turns out that both bands actually sold more T shirts than CDs, so youngsters are maybe not so stupid after all.
Keep practicing those licks- The Darkness use twin lead lines!
Cheers
Dave
Dave B, actually, I have, but only briefly while they're coming back from a break. The country acts usually bring their own.
Other Dave B: I don't know about there, but Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit sell INSANE numbers here-ertainly more than they sell t-shirts. I have heard of The Darkness, but the kids here aren't covering it, and I haven't heard them getting any airplay-I'd notice twin guitars. Last night at the theatre my niece acts at they had a teen concert-6 bands, 5 bucks, girls free-I always go help watch the crowd, and I didn't hear any solos at all, and some of these kids can play.
I don't know what any one else is experienceng, but what I'm hearing from the 16-24 set playing the clubs right now is "short songs, no solos."
Something I thought was funny at the last teen show as my niece and some of her friends hollering out for "Freebird". I asked what made her do that and she said everyone else does, and Skynyrd is cool. Had she ever HEARD Freebird all the way through? no. Played it for her. She hated it. Too long, too slow, too much jamming.
Why do teens think Skynyrd is cool? They heard the chorus of "Sweet Home Alabama" in the movie of the same name. And they heard band members cranking about idiots who request "Freebird".
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Other Dave B: I don't know about there, but Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit sell INSANE numbers here-ertainly more than they sell t-shirts. I have heard of The Darkness, but the kids here aren't covering it, and I haven't heard them getting any airplay-I'd notice twin guitars. Last night at the theatre my niece acts at they had a teen concert-6 bands, 5 bucks, girls free-I always go help watch the crowd, and I didn't hear any solos at all, and some of these kids can play.
I don't know what any one else is experienceng, but what I'm hearing from the 16-24 set playing the clubs right now is "short songs, no solos."
Something I thought was funny at the last teen show as my niece and some of her friends hollering out for "Freebird". I asked what made her do that and she said everyone else does, and Skynyrd is cool. Had she ever HEARD Freebird all the way through? no. Played it for her. She hated it. Too long, too slow, too much jamming.
Why do teens think Skynyrd is cool? They heard the chorus of "Sweet Home Alabama" in the movie of the same name. And they heard band members cranking about idiots who request "Freebird".
JB
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Kids won't cover the Darkness for a while, a sleeper album and a bit too smart for most of them.
But, mainly because the vocalist has an insane range, what's a frat band gonna do about that.
And you want Southern Rock, anyone heard the Kings Of Leon, great southern rock vibe without the overlong guitar parts.
But, mainly because the vocalist has an insane range, what's a frat band gonna do about that.
And you want Southern Rock, anyone heard the Kings Of Leon, great southern rock vibe without the overlong guitar parts.
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JB, yelling Freebird at a show is kind of an old gag... it's not actually a "real" song request... at least that's the way I understand it.
FWIW, maybe it's just a question of my (lack of) age, but I honestly can't remember a time where the radio didn't stink up the place when you turned it on. For my money the eighties were filled with crummy pop, the nineties were too, and the aughts are looking to be on pace with that trend. I just don't figure I'll find what I like, so I never expected to find my new music there.
Now, to get to the actual question in the thread : The thing that most disgusts me about new country is the completely schmaltzy, soft fakery of it all. There are barely any people I can think of getting on the country format radio stations that are genuine, and making music that means something to me... I just end up not feeling anything from listening to it. Funniest of all is that so many of the tunes are a CRAVEN effort to push emotional buttons ("Concrete Angel" for instance... blech, cheeseball).
Or, as Steve Earle put it (as far as memory serves): "The problem with country music today is that there aren't enough songs about killing people." amen.
FWIW, maybe it's just a question of my (lack of) age, but I honestly can't remember a time where the radio didn't stink up the place when you turned it on. For my money the eighties were filled with crummy pop, the nineties were too, and the aughts are looking to be on pace with that trend. I just don't figure I'll find what I like, so I never expected to find my new music there.
Now, to get to the actual question in the thread : The thing that most disgusts me about new country is the completely schmaltzy, soft fakery of it all. There are barely any people I can think of getting on the country format radio stations that are genuine, and making music that means something to me... I just end up not feeling anything from listening to it. Funniest of all is that so many of the tunes are a CRAVEN effort to push emotional buttons ("Concrete Angel" for instance... blech, cheeseball).
Or, as Steve Earle put it (as far as memory serves): "The problem with country music today is that there aren't enough songs about killing people." amen.
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