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The digital protocol developed by Gibson goes far beyond a simple guitar interface. It goes way beyond that, and will have far more influence in the machine tool market.
As I understand it, it is several orders of magnitude beyond what is available, and the piddly guitar market will be an after thought in the greater scheme.
Still, I'd like to have one. What a great interface with the production floor. I play a G chord in my office and the machining cells know exactly what to produce.
I play an F#M7 and the foreman reports to my office.
That's far fetched of course, but what an excuse to play guitar at work.
As I understand it, it is several orders of magnitude beyond what is available, and the piddly guitar market will be an after thought in the greater scheme.
Still, I'd like to have one. What a great interface with the production floor. I play a G chord in my office and the machining cells know exactly what to produce.
I play an F#M7 and the foreman reports to my office.
That's far fetched of course, but what an excuse to play guitar at work.
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Ken, I have a friend who works at line 6, and he came over to my house with his variax (they gave it to him for free) and we spent 2 hours putting it through all it's paces on my studio, and I have to say, it is the most astounding instrument I've ever played.
The Gibson may have a better quality instrument, (Line 6 only makes the electronics, the guitars are made by Cort,) but notwithstanding that I've never seen or heard one, I can't imagine it doing more or sounding better.
This technology it still in it's infancy, and the Line 6 people did a smart thing by making the guitars upgradeable as more patches and snwe software becomes available, They are also working on an interface that will eventually allow you to program in your own custom sounds.
Fender is also getting into this, and it's ony a matter of time before every manufacturer offers something similar.
The Gibson may have a better quality instrument, (Line 6 only makes the electronics, the guitars are made by Cort,) but notwithstanding that I've never seen or heard one, I can't imagine it doing more or sounding better.
This technology it still in it's infancy, and the Line 6 people did a smart thing by making the guitars upgradeable as more patches and snwe software becomes available, They are also working on an interface that will eventually allow you to program in your own custom sounds.
Fender is also getting into this, and it's ony a matter of time before every manufacturer offers something similar.
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Wouldn't it have been a no-brainer to make this thing wireless from the get-go?
I'm not sure I can think of a good use for having each string on a different channel, though. Like all instruments, variation is found in frequency and amplitute variations, not in which string you're playing. Sounds to me like the Gibson people are going, "so we have this digital guitar. It can....uh... play through six different amps- one for each string... yeah, that's it!
Here are some REAL uses that come to mind with this kind of technology:
1) You could play through any set of speakers, anywhere on the planet, from anywhere on the planet, with virtually any guitar tone imaginable. (The logistics are child's play at this point)
2) Recording. You could record your practice sessions on to a cell phone or wireless PDA. -Anywhere, anytime, with virtually any guitar tone.
3) When gigging, leave your amp, effects, and cables at home. Just run a (wireless) signal from your laptop to the P.A. You now have the entire history of guitar sounds at your finger tips.
Of course, if you're like me, and you doubt that a Casio will ever sound like a Hammond, you can get a vintage Fender amp and a Les Paul (with only one, round hole).
I'm not sure I can think of a good use for having each string on a different channel, though. Like all instruments, variation is found in frequency and amplitute variations, not in which string you're playing. Sounds to me like the Gibson people are going, "so we have this digital guitar. It can....uh... play through six different amps- one for each string... yeah, that's it!
Here are some REAL uses that come to mind with this kind of technology:
1) You could play through any set of speakers, anywhere on the planet, from anywhere on the planet, with virtually any guitar tone imaginable. (The logistics are child's play at this point)
2) Recording. You could record your practice sessions on to a cell phone or wireless PDA. -Anywhere, anytime, with virtually any guitar tone.
3) When gigging, leave your amp, effects, and cables at home. Just run a (wireless) signal from your laptop to the P.A. You now have the entire history of guitar sounds at your finger tips.
Of course, if you're like me, and you doubt that a Casio will ever sound like a Hammond, you can get a vintage Fender amp and a Les Paul (with only one, round hole).
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I have not seen or played line 6, so I cannot judge what it is about.
Here is a gleaning of the article about Gibson for what it is worth.
It sends real-time audio over the ethernet.
The MaGIC software allows 100-Mbit Ethernet cable to carry up to 32 channels of 32-bit bi-directional audio with sample rates up to 192 kHz. Latency is just 250 millisceonds across 100 meters of cable.
A/D conversion is done in the guitar itself. The user has flexibility to adjust volumes, distortion, and any other effect string by string. Musicians can map individual strings to different amplifiers for a truely custom sound. They can even assign different effects to the existing knobs on the front of the guitar.
This is not a MIDI guitar. Only four have been built so far. Is it any good? Donno. Time will tell.
Perhaps we can get a report from Mike if they have it at NAMM next year.
Here is a gleaning of the article about Gibson for what it is worth.
It sends real-time audio over the ethernet.
The MaGIC software allows 100-Mbit Ethernet cable to carry up to 32 channels of 32-bit bi-directional audio with sample rates up to 192 kHz. Latency is just 250 millisceonds across 100 meters of cable.
A/D conversion is done in the guitar itself. The user has flexibility to adjust volumes, distortion, and any other effect string by string. Musicians can map individual strings to different amplifiers for a truely custom sound. They can even assign different effects to the existing knobs on the front of the guitar.
This is not a MIDI guitar. Only four have been built so far. Is it any good? Donno. Time will tell.
Perhaps we can get a report from Mike if they have it at NAMM next year.