E9th/B6th quick-start guide

Kiyoshi Osawa · From: Mexico City, Mexico

I am eternally greatful to Bengt Erlandsen for having posted this thread in which he tabbed out the various places to find the major scale and Diatonic Chords for the c6th tuning. His approach allowed me to utilize my previous music theory knowledge and simply apply it to the fretboard in a logical manner. But due to the fact that I play a universal, I had to transpose everything, change the string count, and figure out equivalence of the pedals on my guitar to his tab.

So I decided to transpose the parts I have been using to the standard Newman Universal copedant. With the exception of the scale patterns, it is simply a translation of Bengt's "c6 quick-start guide" thread.

The original thread includes much more tab that I have not translated, and the elements were organized in a different manner. I have taken the liberty to present the material in a different order based on my personal preference.

(Again, and just to be clear: this is not MY tab, just my translation of Bengt's tab for a universal set up. If anyone spots any errors let me know!)

Kiyoshi Osawa · From: Mexico City, Mexico

      


       LKL  LKV  A   B   C   4   5   6   7   RKL  RKR


                                                     


  F#                                          


  D#    D                                          C#


  G#                 A                        


  E                      F#          E        F    D#


  B         Bb   C#      C#              C#       


  G#                 A                   A#   


  F#                             F           


  E                                  D        F    D#


  B     D        C#          C              


  G#                 A                        


  E                          D#  F            F    


  B                          G#  C#           





The following tab assumes you have the above copedant or similar,


and that RKR is engaged.


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C triads in the form C E G low to high





 1 ----------------------------------------------------------


  2 ----------------------------------------------------------


  3 ----1-----------------------------------------------------


  4 ----1-----------------------------------------------------


  5 ----1---6(p7----------------------------------------------


  6 --------6(p7--10(b*---------------------------------------


  7 --------6-----10------13----1-----------------------------


  8 --------------10(p6---13----1----4------------------------


  9 ----------------------13----1----4(P4--8------------------


 10 ---------------------------------4-----8---11-------------


 11 ---------------------------------------8---11(p5----------


 12 -------------------------------------------11(p5----------


* or half pedal 7





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Diatonic triads across the strings





      C     Dm    Em    F     G     Am    Bdim   C


  1 ------------------------------------------------------


  2 ------------------------------------------------------


  3 ------------------------------------------------------


  4 ------------------------------------------------------


  5 ----------------------------------------6-----6(p7----


  6 ---------------------------------6(p7---6-----6(p7----


  7 ---------------------6-----8-----6------6(p5--6-------


  8 ---------6-----8-----6-----8-----6--------------------


  9 ---8-----6-----8-----6-----8--------------------------


 10 ---8-----6-----8--------------------------------------


 11 ---8--------------------------------------------------


 12 ------------------------------------------------------





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Major triad inversion 1-5-3 (root-fifth-third):








       C    Dm   Em   F    G    Am   Bdim   Bdim    C


  1 -----------------------------------------------------


  2 -----------------------------------------------------


  3 -----------------------------------------------------


  4 ------------------6----8----------------11------13---


  5 --------6----8--------------13---15------------------


  6 ---8-------------------------------------------------


  7 ------------------6----8----------------11------13---


  8 --------6----8--------------13---15(p6---------------


  9 ---8--------------6----8----------------11(p4---13---


 10 --------6----8--------------13---15------------------


 11 ---8-------------------------------------------------


 12 -----------------------------------------------------





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Diatonic 7th chords


 


      Cmaj7   Dm7   Em7   Fmaj7   G7     Am7    Bm7b5


  1 -----------------------------------------------------


  2 -----------------------------------------------------


  3 -----------------------------------------------------


  4 ---------------------------------------------6-------


  5 --------------------------------------6(p7---6-------


  6 ------------------------6(p7---8(b*---6(p7---6-------


  7 -----------6-----8------6------8------6------6(p5----


  8 ---8-------6-----8------6------8------6--------------


  9 ---8-------6-----8------6------8---------------------


 10 ---8-------6-----8-----------------------------------


 11 ---8-------------------------------------------------


 12 -----------------------------------------------------


* or half pedal 7





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More diatonic 7th Chords


 


       Cmaj7   Dm7    Em7    Fmaj7  G7    Am7    Bm7b5  Cmaj7


  1 ---------------------------------------------------------


  2 ---------------------------------------------------------


  3 ---------------------------------------------------------


  4 ---------------------------------------------------------


  5 ---------------------------------------------------------


  6 ----1(p7---3(b*---5(b*---6(p7---8(b*--10(b*--11(p7--13(p7


  7 ----1------3------5------6------8-----10-----11-----13---


  8 ----1------3(p6---5(p6---6------8-----10(p6--11-----13---


  9 ----1------3------5------6------8-----10-----11(p4--13---


 10 ---------------------------------------------------------


 11 ---------------------------------------------------------


 12 ---------------------------------------------------------


* or half pedal 7


(Depending on where your pedals are, using B and 6 pedal may be 


hard or impossible.  Good news is RKR -or the change that 


lowers 4 and 8 for b6th "mode"- does not need to be engaged for 


this pedal combination to work.  That means both feet can be 


used freely to press both pedals at the same time.)





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Diatonic 7th chords inversion 1-5-7-3 (root-fifth-seventh-third):





     Cmaj7  Dm7    Em7   Fmaj7  G7   Am7    Bm7b5  Bm7b5   Cmaj7


  1 --------------------------------------------------------------


  2 --------------------------------------------------------------


  3 --------------------------------------------------------------


  4 ----------------------6------8------------------11-------13---


  5 ----------6------8----------------13-----15-------------------


  6 ---8------------------6(p7---8(b*---------------11(p7----13(p7


  7 ----------6------8----6------8----13-----15-----11-------13---


  8 ---8------6------8----------------13-----15(p6----------------


  9 ---8------------------6------8------------------11(p4----13---


 10 ----------6------8----------------13-----15-------------------


 11 ---8----------------------------------------------------------


 12 --------------------------------------------------------------


* or half pedal 7





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Harmonizing the C major scale above or below


C scale is on 7th string, one octave C to C





 1 ---------------------------------------------------------


  2 ---------------------------------------------------------


  3 ---------------------------------------------------------


  4 ---------------------------------------------------------


  5 ---------------------------------------------------------


  6 ---6(p7-9-----11-----12(p7---13(p7---16-----18-----18(p7-


  7 ---6----9(p4--11(p4--12------13------16(p4--18(p4--18----


  8 ---------------------------------------------------------


  9 ---------------------------------------------------------


 10 ---6(*--9-----11-----12(*----13(*----16-----18-----18(*--


 11 ---------------------------------------------------------


 12 ---------------------------------------------------------





* These notes use c6th pedal 4 and are not possible on a 


standard Newman Universal.





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Here's an alternative option based on the A+B pedals that 


works for the universal:





st5   E     F  G  A    B     C   D   E   third


st6   C     D  E  F    G     A   B   C   root


st9   E     F  G  A    B     C   D   E   third





 1 -------------------------------------------------------


  2 -------------------------------------------------------


  3 -------------------------------------------------------


  4 -------------------------------------------------------


  5 --3(a---6--8--8(a--10(a--13--15--15(a------------------


  6 --3(b---6--8--8(b--10(b--13--15--16(b------------------


  7 -------------------------------------------------------


  8 -------------------------------------------------------


  9 --3(a---6--8--8(a--10(a--13--15--17(a------------------


 10 -------------------------------------------------------


 11 -------------------------------------------------------


 12 -------------------------------------------------------





(This is just one of many options. E9th is full of these 


types of harmonized scales.  I just put it in there because


 it fills out the charts provided by Bengt.)





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Minor 7th chords derived from C Diatonic scale:





      Am7            Dm7  Em7


  1 -----------------------------------------------------


  2 -----------------------------------------------------


  3 -----------------------------------------------------


  4 -----------------------------------------------------


  5 -----------------------------------------------------


  6 -----------------------------------------------------


  7 ----1--------------6----8----------------------------


  8 ----1--------------6----8----------------------------


  9 ----1--------------6----8----------------------------


 10 ----1--------------6----8----------------------------


 11 -----------------------------------------------------


 12 -----------------------------------------------------





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or:


 


        Em7            Am7            Dm7


  1 -----------------------------------------------------


  2 -----------------------------------------------------


  3 -----------------------------------------------------


  4 -----------------------------------------------------


  5 ----1(p7-----------6(p7-----------11(p7--------------


  6 ----1(p7-----------6(p7-----------11(p7--------------


  7 ----1--------------6--------------11-----------------


  8 ----1--------------6--------------11-----------------


  9 -----------------------------------------------------


 10 -----------------------------------------------------


 11 -----------------------------------------------------


 12 -----------------------------------------------------


 


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Dominant 7th chords with C diatonic scale roots:





       A7      C7    D7       F7    G7


  1 -----------------------------------------------------


  2 -----------------------------------------------------


  3 -----------------------------------------------------


  4 -----------------------------------------------------


  5 -----------------------------------------------------


  6 -----------------------------------------------------


  7 ----1-------4------6-------9------11-----------------


  8 ----1-------4------6-------9------11-----------------


  9 ----1(p4----4(p4---6(p4----9(p4---11(p4--------------


 10 ----1-------4------6-------9------11-----------------


 11 -----------------------------------------------------


 12 -----------------------------------------------------





(These CHORDS are not part of the KEY of C, but the ROOTS are.)





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C major scale patterns:





(These are derived from what Bengt posted on his original thread,


 but have been expanded up and down to include all the extra 


universal strings.  Pedals may be substituted in many places to


 allow for quicker movement through the scale.)





    C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C


F#---------------------------------------------------------1-----------1


D#---------------------------------------------------------------------2


G#------------------------------------------------------------1--3--4--3


E ---------------------------------------------------1--2--------------4


B ---------------------------------------------1--3--------------------5


G#---------------------------------------1--3--------------------------6


F#------------------------------------1--------------------------------7


E ------------------------------1--2-----------------------------------8


B ------------------------1--3-----------------------------------------9


G#------------------1--3-----------------------------------------------10


E ------------1--3-----------------------------------------------------11


B ---1--3--5-----------------------------------------------------------12


     C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C





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and finally:





      C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D


F#  ---------------------------------------------6--8---- 1


D#  ----------------------------------------------------- 2


G#  ----------------------------------------------------- 3


E   ---------------------------------------6--8---------- 4


B   ---------------------------------6--8---------------- 5


G#  ---------------------------6--8---------------------- 6


F#  ------------------------6---------------------------- 7


E   ------------------6--8------------------------------- 8


B   ------------6--8------------------------------------- 9


G#  ------6--8------------------------------------------- 10


E   ---8------------------------------------------------- 11


B   ----------------------------------------------------- 12


       C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D

[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 06 April 2005 at 09:53 PM.]

[This message was edited by Kiyoshi Osawa on 11 April 2005 at 09:27 AM.]

Kiyoshi Osawa · From: Mexico City, Mexico

Fixed it for ya Kiyoshi
Ricky

[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 06 April 2005 at 09:54 PM.]

Jim Hankins · From: Yuba City, California, USA

Thanks Kiyoshi, as I am learning Newman copendant U12,it looks like your work can really give me a jump start! (Thanks Bengt too) Jim

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