Anybody know Tyler Hall's copedents? E9TH

[Dennis Rehrig]

Anybody know Tyler Hall's copedents? E9TH

[Tyler Hall]

These days it’s mostly just standard Emmons. Each guitar I have is slightly different but they’re all just the basic 4 lever changes and a few of them raise 2 along with 1 and 7. I prefer 7 raise over the 6 lower.

No weird tunings anymore. No staggered levers. No splits. Just meat and potatoes on both tunings, actually.

[Mike Holder]

I switched a few years ago to also raise 7 along with 1 & 2 and it has been very useful. For some reason I thought you were dropping 6 when I watched you play. Thanks for sharing that.

[Tyler Hall]

It’s not out of the realm of reality, Mike. One guitar, the collar slipped and became a perfect 1/2 raise 7 and I’ve just left it. I love only raising it a half but I see no reason to do it that way on purpose when I’ve been half pedaling that whole tone raise for years. I left 6 lower on one or two of em for a quite a while. It’s a great change and really *almost* the same thing.

I have several guitars and all of them have a slightly different setup going on now but all fairly basic. I’m not sure if I’m shooting myself in the foot by not sticking to one setup but it’s taken a long time just to be able to learn to play the instrument and not just the pedal setup de jour. Sometimes I even miss my whacky 9x9 setup but it’s almost all still there if you want to find it and don’t have 54 changes to keep tuned.

[Mike Holder]

Good point, I will say you definitely know how to play! I have 2 guitars currently and decided they should both be exactly the same so I don’t get confused and hopefully it helps my learning curve going forward. Keep up the good work, it’s an inspiration to watch or hear you play. Thanks for the insight!

[Dean Holman]

I’ve raised the 7th for many years now. I’ve found some neat things by doing that, plus, I can still do the same thing as lowering the 6th string, and, along with lowering the 5th a whole, I can split the Franklin change. Sometimes, I just like lowering the 5th a whole, without the lowered 6th sound, but that gives you the option of doing that Franklin change, however you want to. I also like to do the Lloyd Green method of lowering the 6th, which is, playing 4,5,and 6, go back 2 frets, and hit your 3rd pedal at the same time. It gives it a little different effect, but you still get the same sound, as lowering the 6th a whole tone, on a knee lever. I’m changing my setup a little, I’ve been lowering the E’s on the RKR, and lowering 2&9, on the LKR, and I’m switching those 2 levers. I think it will help me do a couple of things, a little easier than how I’ve been doing, but I absolutely love raising the 7th a whole.

[Dale Rottacker]

You guys are all great players in your own right, and I've always found it interesting how you all approach things a bit differently, but with skills that elude me to be able to sit at any guitar with any setup and play it like you know what you're doing.

I've tended to be more "Chordy" yet so Theory Deficient that my approach is pretty lame in comparison to how you all come at it. My "Lever Lab" as Travis calls it spent a couple years trying to get chords in more ways than my feeble mind can keep track of, mostly involving the 9th string. I went from very basic to beyond my grasp. But talking about that 6th lower or 7th raise, this is what I did. I bought a guitar that had the 6th lower with the 1&2 raise and could not make sense of it, so moved the 6th lower to the 7th raise, with enough feel in it to raise it both a half and whole. Then I added a half raise of the 9th string to that lever which made that lever almost act as 2. The 1 & 2 raise works great with everything to the seventh string and the 9th half raise with the 7th raise on the rest of it, either with just the lever or in conjunction with AB down. Maj7th a plenty, with nice dissonance with AB down. I do also lower 6 a whole, but on my vertical and also added a half lower of 9 to that, though sometimes I'll lower 9 a whole as well, with some fancy chords there too.

[Mike Holder]

I de-tuned the 6 string lower on the Franklin pedal and am really liking the options I’m getting! As you say, you can still get the Franklin pedal but there’s more available as a result of not lowering 6. Great advice…Thanks Dean!