2 instruments into 1 amplifier problem.

Carey Hofer · Post by **Carey Hofer** » 4 Jun 2023 11:02 am

So here is my puzzle. I have 2 instruments, an electric lap steel and an electric acoustic guitar. I want to run them into one amp. The acoustic I need to eq quit a bit and so I use an LR Baggs pre amp pedal to do that. The lap steel sounds fine with out the pre amp pedal. In fact it sounds horrible when I run it through the pre amp pedal.

So . . How do I run these 2 instruments through the amp, one through the pre amp pedal and one straight into the amp? The amp, (a Raezers Edge Luna 700) only has one input. When I go all electric I use my Marsh Clifton (Deluxe Reverb clone) which has two Inputs and two sets of eq, so no issues there.

Brooks Montgomery · Post by **Brooks Montgomery** » 4 Jun 2023 11:09 am

Morley ABC pedal works great for me.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... iner-pedal

Steve Lipsey · Post by **Steve Lipsey** » 4 Jun 2023 11:28 am

The Morley will work fine if you don't ever have both on at once. To do that cleanly you need an active combiner pedal, like the ones from Saturnworks.

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 4 Jun 2023 11:35 am

The Morley is a tried and true solution.

Here are two much cheaper and much smaller ones. Input and output are reversible so they can be two into one or one into two.
Note that they need a power supply only to power the indicator lights (which are useful but not essential).

$30
https://www.sonicake.com/products/sonic-aby

$50
https://one-control.com/products/one-co ... ox-english

Carey Hofer · Post by **Carey Hofer** » 4 Jun 2023 11:51 am

Huh, can't see how either of those options would work. Here is my signal flow:

1. 2 instruments into a switcher (to switch back and forth between the two instruments) and one out into the acoustic preamp pedal.

2. Only one Acoustic pre amp pedal out to the amp, so both instruments run through the e-qued preamp pedal.

3. How do I modify this so one instrument goes through the pre amp pedal and the other instrument goes straight into the amp . . Not both at once of course.

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 4 Jun 2023 11:58 am

-- Acoustic guitar into preamp pedal. Preamp pedal into input 1 of switcher.
-- Lap steel into input 2 of switcher
-- Switcher out to amp.

No?

Brooks Montgomery · Post by **Brooks Montgomery** » 4 Jun 2023 12:59 pm

Jon Light wrote:-- Acoustic guitar into preamp pedal. Preamp pedal into input 1 of switcher.
-- Lap steel into input 2 of switcher
-- Switcher out to amp.
No?

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Carey Hofer · Post by **Carey Hofer** » 4 Jun 2023 2:56 pm

That's it! I knew there had to be a simple solution that someone would be able to show me. Thank you!

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 4 Jun 2023 3:20 pm

Excellent. You are in business.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 5 Jun 2023 10:10 am

Carey Hofer wrote:That's it! I knew there had to be a simple solution that someone would be able to show me. Thank you!

Thankfully, Jon's "Show Me Fee" is quite nominal!

~Lee

Don Griffiths · Post by **Don Griffiths** » 7 Jun 2023 4:49 pm

I hope the deal goes through Jon Light. I ordered the Sonicake ABY and it went throughSHOP.com. Free shipping. What a deal.

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 14 Jun 2023 5:25 am

For many, many years I've been simply unplugging the cord from the steel and plugging it into the guitar. I've tweaked the tone to where they both sound okay. (You could have an EQ pedal to turn on for one guitar). SYK: You have to have a volume pedal that turns all the way off or it'll make the plugging noise.

Carey Hofer · Post by **Carey Hofer** » 18 Aug 2023 2:42 pm

Sorry about the time lag. Forgot about this post. I do the same thing when I switch back and forth between electric and steel, just unplug the electric and plug in the steel. Works fine for me too. When I use the acoustic guitar however, I have an LR Baggs acoustic preamp pedal. Does not (understandably so-its made for amplifying acoustics) sound good through my steel. Hence the above post. I now use an ABY and run the acoustic through the PA and the steel/electric through a deluxe reverb. Thanks for the advice/comments guys.

Steven Pearce · Post by **Steven Pearce** » 18 Aug 2023 8:54 pm

My process:
One cable for both steel and guitar. That cable goes to my pedal board, into my tuner so it mutes the thing. So-tuner on, unplug one and plug in the other. I have 4 pedals on my board. Three, reverb, comp, O.D. all are set-and-forget. The guitar needs a little boost, so when I plug into guitar, I also hit the boost.
It’s all a fast change. Last week, County Fair, hour and a half set, 21 songs and 3 of em are guitar. I have to really pay attention as there are some songs a go from guitar to steel, in open D, but I retune the upper A to a B. Then back.
D A D F# B D
Thanks