What order do i put these in and do i need both?

Michael M Smith · Post by **Michael M Smith** » 9 Feb 2023 1:21 pm

I'm pretty new to the PSG world and i have been listening to David Hartley on Youtube and he is quite amazing to me. I have watched his videos in detail and he uses from what i can tell a Boss RV and a Boss DD. My question is. From the Steel I would presume the first stop is the Hilton Volume Pedal and then what? The Boss RV or DD? Do i need both? i bought both based on his Youtube videos but after reading some articles some are only using one of those. Then from the Boss effects i have a Peavey NV112. Do i need to use Reverb on that amp if i have those two effects in line?

Thanks ahead of time!!!
Mike

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 9 Feb 2023 5:34 pm

Are you an experienced player? Because if you're not, extra gizmos won't help you to sound like Dave. (Just use the amp reverb.) But if you're already a good player, you can try using the steel-volume pedal-delay-reverb setup. (I think that's how most players would do it.)

Andy Zahnd · Post by **Andy Zahnd** » 9 Feb 2023 8:50 pm

Sorry Donny, if I don't quite agree. I think if you already have reverb and delay separated, I would suggest. Steel- Delay-Volume Pedal-Reverb-Amp. The quality and handling of the delay before the volume pedal is very audible! I wish a happy day!

John Palumbo · Post by **John Palumbo** » 10 Feb 2023 2:54 pm

I go first to Volume Pedal then to Delay then to Reverb but you might want to take a look at this:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... f996a6e6b1

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 11 Feb 2023 12:09 am

If you're using an NV112 try this:

Steel straight to input 1

Volume pedal to pre-EQ patch("send" to VP in,VP out to "Return").

Post EQ "send" to DD in,DD mono out to post EQ return and use the internal reverb. Alternatively, post EQ send to DD mono in, DD mono out to RV in,RV out to Post EQ return.

BTW if you use the pre-EQ patch for your volume pedal it doesn't add highs as you open the VP up and doesn't lose highs as you back it off. I really, REALLY wish more amp builders would follow Peavey's lead and have pre and post EQ patches.

Jim Kennedy · Post by **Jim Kennedy** » 11 Feb 2023 11:23 am

I put delay and reverb after the volume pedal. However, there is some subjectivity involved. Experiment with the order, and go with what sounds good to you.