Rustys D10
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- Paul Mozen
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Rustys D10
Well, I am the proud owner of one of Rusty Youngs psg's. A Carter D10. On the LKR it lowers G#(6) to f#. Why would he do this? Also I would prefer the standard LKR to raise the E to F. LKL lowers the E's to D# as expected. Any one around S Fla to help?
Thanks
Thanks
Paul
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Some people prefer splitting the raising and lowering of the E's to different legs.
Normal Emmons setup is
LKL Raises E's
LKR Lowers E's
There is not right or wrong way of doing this. Whatever you are most comfortable with.
Regards
d
Some people prefer splitting the raising and lowering of the E's to different legs.
Normal Emmons setup is
LKL Raises E's
LKR Lowers E's
There is not right or wrong way of doing this. Whatever you are most comfortable with.
Regards
Mark T
Rittenberry Laquer D10, Rittenberry Prestige SD10, Revelation Preamp,Revelation Octal Preamp,Lexicon PCM 92 Reverb, Furlong Cabinet
Rittenberry Laquer D10, Rittenberry Prestige SD10, Revelation Preamp,Revelation Octal Preamp,Lexicon PCM 92 Reverb, Furlong Cabinet
Paul -
That whole-tone sixth string drop on LKR may have been a carry-over from Rusty's days of playing Sho-Bud steels, which typically had the RKL lowering the E strings
So Rusty's setup may have been to engage both RKL and the LKR to obtain a V chord with any standard grip at the Open Chord Position
Here's our hero Rusty (wildly) performing on one of his Sho-Bud's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjcw88quyg
PS - hold on to your seat...........
Ron
That whole-tone sixth string drop on LKR may have been a carry-over from Rusty's days of playing Sho-Bud steels, which typically had the RKL lowering the E strings
So Rusty's setup may have been to engage both RKL and the LKR to obtain a V chord with any standard grip at the Open Chord Position
Here's our hero Rusty (wildly) performing on one of his Sho-Bud's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjcw88quyg
PS - hold on to your seat...........
Ron
- Paul Mozen
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Thanks Mark,mtulbert wrote:Paul
d
Some people prefer splitting the raising and lowering of the E's to different legs.
Normal Emmons setup is
LKL Raises E's
LKR Lowers E's
There is not right or wrong way of doing this. Whatever you are most comfortable with.
Regards
I forgot to mention this guitar is setup as Day. Also I am used to the E's being on the L as that was my 1st guitar. Although that had an Emmons pedal setup. The day setup doesn't bother me too much..
- Paul Mozen
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Thanks Ron,Ron Funk wrote:Paul -
That whole-tone sixth string drop on LKR may have been a carry-over from Rusty's days of playing Sho-Bud steels, which typically had the RKL lowering the E strings
So Rusty's setup may have been to engage both RKL and the LKR to obtain a V chord with any standard grip at the Open Chord Position
Here's our hero Rusty (wildly) performing on one of his Sho-Bud's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjcw88quyg
PS - hold on to your seat...........
Ron
You indeed may be right on Rustys setup. He definitely used the Day pedal setup. Great vid!
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Wow
I believe he gave Robert Randolph a run for his money on that there....
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Nice score, Paul!
Looking at him go wilder and wilder through this video, my main take away comes @4:15 when he tips his steel on the keyhead endplate: "Huh, rack and barrel but nylon tuners." (I vaguely recall reading an interview (GP?) where he discusses doing this for greater tuning stability?)
I saw Poco several times in this period right after Richie Furay left. They did a decent job of keeping it going, although I lament missing them with Furay (and Messina).
This is probably my second most used combination after A+B. I call it the "I have to take a leak" gesture.So Rusty's setup may have been to engage both RKL and the LKR to obtain a V chord with any standard grip at the Open Chord Position
Looking at him go wilder and wilder through this video, my main take away comes @4:15 when he tips his steel on the keyhead endplate: "Huh, rack and barrel but nylon tuners." (I vaguely recall reading an interview (GP?) where he discusses doing this for greater tuning stability?)
I saw Poco several times in this period right after Richie Furay left. They did a decent job of keeping it going, although I lament missing them with Furay (and Messina).
- Richard Sinkler
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The G# to F# Lower is my 3rd most used knee lever. As mentioned above, with the E to D# lowers, it makes a 4 chord (A) 2 frets down from the no pedals position or 5 chord in the no pedals position (B chord open or 12th fret). Release the lever and activate your B pedal, and it becomes a 7th chord. the one you get with E lowers and the A & B pedals (B7 open at 12th fret). And if you can split tune the 6th string (extra rod method needed on a Carter, no split tuning screws), you can get a lower from the root of the A & B pedals A chord (open and 12th fret) activating the 6th string lower with the A & B pedals down Giving the G note (Dom 7th), and still have the high root note (A) on string 3. With the split, you have the abilty to get movement of 4 notes (F#, G, G#, A) on string 6, giving some cool possibilities. Splitting the 6th string with only the B pedal activated will give you an Em chord (open and 12th fret) on strings 4,5,6, 5,6,8, 6,8,10.
Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 53 years and still counting.
- Paul Mozen
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Donny Hinson wrote:Lowering the 6th a full tone on a knee lever is a fairly common move, but what lever is used is purely personal taste. Some players happen to like the E raises and lowers on different knees so that the raise-to-lower transition can be done smoother, and maybe that's why Rusty did it.
THANKS Donny !!!