Legs, Steel or Alloy?

[Johnie King]

Upgrading the legs and pedal bar seems like a waste of time. The starter was built to be a starter. In my opinion once you get going on the Pedalsteel it might make more sense to move on to a more functional instrument. By the time you modify and replace all the things you will need to do with the starter it will cost more money than it would to buy a fully functional instrument. If you are into tinkering there are plenty of used instruments available that are capable of being rebuilt and upgraded into amazing steels. The starter is not one of them.

If you are really into fixing up your starter my apologies. Just ignore my un asked for opinion.

[Johnie King]

Ross Shaffer solves the sloppy leg fit on the new Sierra pedal steels.

[Johnie King]

I hope the prices of new steel guitar legs comes down I was priced for a set of 4 new legs $450 dollars.

[Fred Treece]

Ross Shaffer solves the sloppy leg fit on the new Sierra pedal steels.

It’s one of those ideas that is so cool and sensible, you wonder how it could have been unthought of for so long.

[Ross Shafer]

thank you Fred, I had the idea virtually the first time I screwed a leg into a pedal steel.

In regards to your earlier question about using Sierra legs on a Williams (or any other steel). I do know of a way it could be done, but it would be far from practical. Then there's the small issue of getting Sierra legs to try it with. A set of 4 costs $10k, but they come with a beautiful custom made S10 steel attached.

While its highly doubtful Sierra endplates would fit up to a Williams body very easily, I'm sure someone clever might be able to come up with a way, if they were available separately....which they are not.

Thanks for asking though!

[Fred Treece]

Thanks for responding, Ross. I kept trying to think of a Betty Grable joke as a comeback to your $10,000 set of legs comment, but only your grandpa would get it.

Just to clarify, my non-mechanical engineer perspective sees the knee levers as the problem causing elements for pedal steel guitar legs. The pedals seem pretty innocent in comparison.

[Ross Shafer]

Just to clarify, my non-mechanical engineer perspective sees the knee levers as the problem causing elements for pedal steel guitar legs. The pedals seem pretty innocent in comparison.

Anything that imparts a sideload into the structure, so yes, knee levers (and doorways for the less than graceful among us).

[John Davis]

Is he still in business? Tried to contact for some legs.....so far no reply

[Ian Worley]

Is he still in business? Tried to contact for some legs.....so far no reply

I have one set of Ray's nice alloy legs, I just traded emails with him re: getting another set about two weeks ago. This was his reply:

Hi Ian,

Yes I've just emailed several people, all of whom wanted the alloy legs (COA). Here is a copy of the explanation:

I have had parts and material supply problems since back at the Covid shutdown a couple of years ago, and have been building legs from inventory on hand or materials I could buy back from larger customers. I have run out of the parts and tubes for the alloy legs (COA) at standard length. I can make one set for a shorter steel player using one inch under, but that does not help you. More then one of my parts and materials suppliers have gone out of business.

I have enough steel tubes for a standard set of chrome Over Steel (COS).

I wish I could do better for you,

Ray