Which Tuner? Grover or Sperzel

Gary Watkins · Post by **Gary Watkins** » 18 May 2022 5:19 pm

I realize that most answers are relative to the person giving the answer, but which do you feel is the better tuner, Grover or Sperzel, and why?

Dan Beller-McKenna · Post by **Dan Beller-McKenna** » 19 May 2022 2:35 am

Most of us who have Sperzels on older steels run into issues with the grease in the gears hardening up. People have addressed this with mixed result. (I have them on my '81 Sho Bud and my '97 Carter). On the other hand, the Grover 18:1s that Ricky Davis put on the '70 Professional I owned for a while (when ya gonna sell that back to me Rick Abbott?

) were excellent! NOT the mini Grovers: the standard Rotomatic size, 102 Series.

Joe Krumel · Post by **Joe Krumel** » 19 May 2022 3:13 am

Those 18:1 Grovers are my favorite,hands down.

Dave Grafe · Post by **Dave Grafe** » 19 May 2022 4:10 am

Grovers are a notably superior product

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 19 May 2022 4:37 am

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 19 May 2022 5:31 am

Older Sperzel's were crap. I replaced the original Sperzel's on my 82 D-10 Franklin about 10 years ago and the new ones were smoother and not "loose" feeling. I kept the Franklin 8 years after installing the new Sperzel's and they were still like new.

Two of the GFI's I had used Grover's and I hated the small knobs. The wider knobs on the Sperzel's are easier to turn.

My current GFI is keyless as I didn't want another with the Grover's.

Per Berner · Post by **Per Berner** » 19 May 2022 10:15 am

Of the two, I'd say Grover. I put a set of locking Sperzels on a Tele sometime late last century and they were a bit troublesome – and only 12:1. Bur I'd rather use Schaller, Gotoh or Hipshot - in that order.

Robert B Murphy · Post by **Robert B Murphy** » 19 May 2022 11:54 am

Grover Rotomatics. I love the Imperials too for regular guitar.