Extended E9 Copedants

[John Larson]

Eventually I want to transition to a 12 string E9 PSG. Please post Copedants if you have them.

I'm thinking Emmons + Franklin + changes for the lower strings.

[Joe Hensley]

No changes here on my low E & A flat at the moment. (E9 in circles)

[Tom Bradshaw]

LKL: 2nd string lower 1/2 tone, then full tone; Raise 7th string 1/2 tone
Vertical: Lower 5th string 1/2 tone (no other change)
LKR: Raise 1st string a full tone; raise 2nd string a 1/2 tone
Pedal B: Add 1/2 tone change to 11th string.
Move 8th pedal changes to 4th pedal position. Eliminate 4th pedal changes.
Add 0 pedal to the left of pedal A and install the Franklin pedal changes.

There are reasons for this, but no need to provide them at this point. Someone might want to beat me up! Ha. ...Tom

[Chris Brooks]

Like Tom, I have Pedal B raise the low G# (string 11) to A. This gives a low tonic note in "pedals down" position.

Another good change is to have your E to F lever lower 12 to C#.

[John Sims]

Here's mine for what it's worth...

[b0b]

Here's what I used (or something very close to it) for about 30 years. You can hear it on "Quasar Steel Guitar".



The 4th pedal got changed around fairly often. It ended up lowering the B strings to A# instead of raising the G#s. Also, I added a drop of the low E to D on the 3rd pedal, which was very useful.

[Hugo Knef]

If you are wanting that low E on a 12 string extended E9. You could experiment on a 10 string by putting a low E on 10 and moving B to the 9 string. I have my guitar setup like this and I love it. I can get the D by RKR lever the B up to D. I also lower 7 to G# with RKL. Nice power chord on the wound strings. Everything else pretty standard Emmons.

[Rick Schmidt]

Here’s my relatively recent Extended E9 setup with an explanatory video I did awhile back if you’re interested ….
https://youtu.be/iJUiMp_I-O0

[Fred Treece]

Keeping watch on this thread.

Just one word of advice - I have the Franklin change on P5, to the right of C (P4). I hardly ever use it. I believe it would find much more use in the “0” position (P1) next to A & B, but I like what I already have there, which is a B>Bb change on str 5 &10. Studying Rick Schmidt and b0b copedents with interest.

[Jameson Koweek]

I just recently changed my C pedal to lower my low E to D. With this I can have a drop D style power chord with B+C on strings 12,11&9, and if I play B+C and strum 12-3, I get a great big chord that is a 6th on the bottom and a major 7th on the top. I am sure someone here knows the proper nomenclature for such a chord. It’s really nice for song endings, because I can strum it, and then release the pedals and drop to frets and get a 9 chord of the same name. Other than that my setup is pretty standard Emmons.

[Tom Gorr]

I just recently changed my C pedal to lower my low E to D. With this I can have a drop D style power chord with B+C on strings 12,11&9, and if I play B+C and strum 12-3, I get a great big chord that is a 6th on the bottom and a major 7th on the top. I am sure someone here knows the proper nomenclature for such a chord. It’s really nice for song endings, because I can strum it, and then release the pedals and drop to frets and get a 9 chord of the same name. Other than that my setup is pretty standard Emmons.

That's how I set up my Universal tuning many years ago. I love it there!! It's such a natural place to have it.

(Although I do wonder if necessary to do this on an extended E9 tuning when you can just grab s9).

[b0b]

Tom, he's talking about the 12th string lower E to D on the C pedal. I also had that change for many years. It makes B+C great for rock power chords or country tick-tack barotine parts.

[Tom Gorr]

Oh yeah! - right on thanks for the clarification.

He means the "The really low E" not just "the low E". Tee hee.