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Topic: Second String E9 Tuning |
Billy Henderson
From:
Portland, AR, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 11:13 am |
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| My second string lowers a whole step (D# - C#) Is that a common change? I can't figure out how to use it. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance> |
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Michael Haselman
From:
St. Paul
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 11:41 am
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I'll be the first here. Most (95%) of E9 players have a double lower on the second string, taking it down a half, (which is IMHO way more useful than the whole step lower) then another half. With the half step, you get a 7th with no pedals, and some great sus 4 licks with AB pedals. Try and get that when you can. The whole step is good for unison licks with 5th string pedals down, and many more.
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Wayne Wallett
From:
Shermans Dale, PA USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 11:48 am
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| Here's a couple suggestions. Most are set up with 1/2 stop feel at (D) can be used with strings 3,4,5,6,8,10 for a dominant 7th. Pressing past 1/2 stop to C# and pressing C pedal (raising 5th B to C# gives unisons on 2nd and 5th. Move up 3 frets from whatever your #1 chord, hit strings 2 & 5 and slowely release gives 1 string going up one down (lick Emmons used in Healing Hands of Time) cut. Then slide up 2 frets to #4 chord. Nice change. Takes you from 1 to 4 chord. Try 2nd lowered to C# with other strings & pedals, some interesting changes. Good luck. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 1:48 pm
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think of it more as notes in a scale
descending or ascending scales..
along with the 2nd string raise
this offers 4 notes on the 2nd string including the natural.
Once the notes are in your head..
all bets are off..
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 9:58 pm
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| The whole step lower to C# gives the 6th for 6th neck type licks on E9. |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2006 11:32 pm
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Try tuning it to D rather than D#. If you must, drop it to C# on a knee. Once you get used to the D and see how it enhances the tuning, especially when playing pedals-down, you'll love it.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 Sep 2006 3:50 am
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if you can adapt the D to your style of playing then that may be a good thing.
Unfortunatley for our Instrument, we can make a tuning change to make an addition, but at the same time we just removed some things which may be of value...
Only the player can determine this...
I struggled with the half stop for several months. brought the D# down to D..it was great for the phrasing that required the half stop..but I lost the D# phrases which in many cases worked with the 2nd string 1/2 step raise.
Back to D# I went and made a modification to my Steel for a very positive 2nd string half stop.
I am thinking that many folks who tune the D# down to D are doing it because they are not confident in the half stop lower.[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 22 September 2006 at 04:51 AM.] |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 22 Sep 2006 4:53 am
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I'm thinking many tune 2 to D because a dom 7 is their default chord.
I like having the M7 as a default, with the ability to lower it to dom 7. Having both seems to increase the string's use as a passing tone. |
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Randy Hess
From:
Escondido, CA
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Posted 28 Sep 2006 10:05 am
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| Jimmie Crawford tuned it to a D & had a 1/2 step raise to a D# & a lower to the C# (I can't remember which knees did what). [This message was edited by Randy Hess on 28 September 2006 at 11:06 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2006 10:42 am
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Lowering D# to D is the standard change, and it's the most useful. Many people have a "feel stop" at D. Pushing the lever harder then lowers it to C# (and often lowers the 9th string to C# as well).
The D note is particularly useful in the positions at the II and V frets of the current key. For example in the key of G, the D# to D lower gives you a scale note at the 5th and 10th frets. The first string is also a scale note there, so you will have lots of scale runs available (especially with pedals down).
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