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b0b wrote:
memphislim wrote:
b0b wrote:Also of interest, Ronnie Bennett's mods to Basil's PS-210: https://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/012905.html
Bob, is it just me or are all the pics on the thread you mention no longer there?
Those pictures from 2006 are actually stored on Basil's web site, which doesn't use https. Your browser may be refusing to load them because of that. The internet is changing!
b0b, I have transferred the pictures to the new forum as I can't edit the 'old post'..
That old post is now duplicated (with pictures stored on your server..) Here:-->
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2995460
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Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:These are videos explaining how it works and how to adjust it. (In chronological order)
https://youtu.be/q3BHepNy-NE

https://youtu.be/kNYVlinti8g

https://youtu.be/_EhO9hcFr2g

https://youtu.be/LqcA2Oxw-OA

https://youtu.be/5AaVt4gE1A8
Basil this is very interesting, however the 3rd and 4th video come up as being unavailable... I remember drooling over the Fender Catalog that had this in it, but never ever got close to one.
I've sorted out the viewing permissions Dale..ALL is OK NOW..
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basilh wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:These are videos explaining how it works and how to adjust it. (In chronological order)
https://youtu.be/q3BHepNy-NE

https://youtu.be/kNYVlinti8g

https://youtu.be/_EhO9hcFr2g

https://youtu.be/LqcA2Oxw-OA

https://youtu.be/5AaVt4gE1A8
Basil this is very interesting, however the 3rd and 4th video come up as being unavailable... I remember drooling over the Fender Catalog that had this in it, but never ever got close to one.
I've sorted out the viewing permissions Dale..ALL is OK NOW..
Interesting instrument Basil... I learned a lot, thank you.
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I have a vague memory of Jerry Garcia playing one of these. Can anyone confirm? I didn't know anything about pedal steel at the time, so I may be mistaken.
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Well b0b, who is this on a Single neck 12 string version of the Fender PS-210 with the Beach Boys ?
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b0b wrote:I have a vague memory of Jerry Garcia playing one of these. Can anyone confirm? I didn't know anything about pedal steel at the time, so I may be mistaken.
I've collected several photos of Jerry on pedal steel and I've never seen him on a PS-210...I'd love to see one if it exists ;-)

Also the story I've read is he originally tried to learn on a Fender 400 and gave up. A few months later the Dead were passing through Denver and he stopped at a music store. They had a more traditional 3x4 and the salesman explained how it's tuned and the basics of the pedal/knee changes and the light bulb went on over Jerry's head and he bought it. The story then goes that he had it shipped to the infamous Haight-Ashbury Dead house and pretty much locked himself in a room on the 2nd floor and worked hard for about 6 months to learn.

At least that's the story I've heard, I'm sure there are other variations floating around :)
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That's Ricky Faatar on the Sgl neck with the Beach Boys.
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Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:These are videos explaining how it works and how to adjust it. (In chronological order)
https://youtu.be/q3BHepNy-NE

https://youtu.be/kNYVlinti8g

https://youtu.be/_EhO9hcFr2g

https://youtu.be/LqcA2Oxw-OA

https://youtu.be/5AaVt4gE1A8
Basil this is very interesting, however the 3rd and 4th video come up as being unavailable... I remember drooling over the Fender Catalog that had this in it, but never ever got close to one.
I've sorted out the viewing permissions Dale..ALL is OK NOW..
Interesting instrument Basil... I learned a lot, thank you.
I'm still seeing that two of the videos are private and can't be viewed.
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Dennis, the store that Jerry Garcia probably visited would have been Guitar City. Don Edwards owned it at that time, and sold pedal steels. IIRC, I seem to recall seeing Garcia playing a ZB guitar prior to playing a Sho-Bud.
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memphislim wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:
Dale Rottacker wrote:
basilh wrote:These are videos explaining how it works and how to adjust it. (In chronological order)
https://youtu.be/q3BHepNy-NE

https://youtu.be/kNYVlinti8g

https://youtu.be/_EhO9hcFr2g

https://youtu.be/LqcA2Oxw-OA

https://youtu.be/5AaVt4gE1A8
Basil this is very interesting, however the 3rd and 4th video come up as being unavailable... I remember drooling over the Fender Catalog that had this in it, but never ever got close to one.
I've sorted out the viewing permissions Dale..ALL is OK NOW..
Interesting instrument Basil... I learned a lot, thank you.
I'm still seeing that two of the videos are private and can't be viewed.
Sorted all are now publicly visible.
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Jerry Erickson wrote:Dennis, the store that Jerry Garcia probably visited would have been Guitar City. Don Edwards owned it at that time, and sold pedal steels. IIRC, I seem to recall seeing Garcia playing a ZB guitar prior to playing a Sho-Bud.
Interesting! Here's a couple great shots I have of Jerry on a ZB. I have pix of him on an MCI and Emmons as well but I think the earliest shots I have of him are on a ZB. Maybe this is the same one he bought from Guitar City?

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Back to the subject matter, the Fender PS-210..These are videos explaining how it works and how to adjust it. (In chronological order)
https://youtu.be/q3BHepNy-NE

https://youtu.be/kNYVlinti8g

https://youtu.be/_EhO9hcFr2g

https://youtu.be/LqcA2Oxw-OA

https://youtu.be/5AaVt4gE1A8
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PS210 #15 is sold but I found these....

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I have no idea who these people are or if they are relevant to the guitar. I did find some cool stuff in the box with all the mags and newsletters. Here is the link. Reworking the PS210 was published in the Steel Guitar Record Club Newsletter #3. I found issues 1-13 missing 2 & 5. There is also a Fender 65-66 catalog and other 1960's-80's mags and lessons. I am mailing most to the buyer but will finish taking pics and adding before I do. So happy its soon in the hands of someone who will love it.
Thank you to all the gentlemen who were kind and informative, your passion is appreciated and your kindness is admired.

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Wow, Victoria!
That's some great historic memorabilia.
Is that Zane Beck folks?
Thanks for posting.
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Just a little minutiae about the 210. If memory serves me, in early 1969 I was contacted by Gene Fields because he found out that I owned a Sho~Bud Crossover. He asked me if I'd come down to Fullerton (I lived in West H'wood at the time) so that Fender's patent attorneys could examine the undercarriage to determine if the neck selector system of the 210 was in conflict with the S~B patent on the Crossover. Turns out it wasn't and Fender went on with the 210.

Gene was real nice and appreciative, and we grew closer years later through the steel show thing. He was an exceptional thinker. I asked him how he conceived of the 210 changer, and he said "many nights, laying awake in bed, staring at the ceiling and visualizing stuff."

I know he used to play the clubs south and east of Los Angeles, but I never got a chance to hear him onstage. I heard he was a player for sure.
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