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Help identify old steel

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Can anyone tell me about this steel a friend bought recently. These name on the front says ESTATE. Is it a one off home made or was it production?
Any ideas on what those white buttons were for?
Does anyone have ideas for making it playable again?

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Looks homemade to me. Looks like paper clips were used to connect the rods (and cables?) to the changer fingers. :?
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I think somebody replaced original parts with any odd thing lying around. The cable pull looks original to me.I'm not sure about the paper clips. They may have been special order.
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looks like it's meant to be a lefty, but set up backwards in the pics. Pedal cranks are on the back apron (but so is the knee lever)
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Post by Erv Niehaus »

Looks like a Frankensteel to me. :whoa:
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It absolutely is a Frankensteel. A friend bought it and wants to make a project of getting it working again.
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I see one part that you would find on a Roberts the crank near the changer, but that is it. I cannot recall what Roberts fingers looked like. I thing the rod hooks come from the pedal steels made by Office Depot.
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Post by Bobby D. Jones »

I remember seeing a Lawn Mower/Small Tractor with a model name of ESTATE. Not sure if it was in the USA or Canada. The name plate looks familiar.

For the 3 white buttons I would guess from the wiring in the photo. The pickup has been tapped for 3 different OHM resistances for the pickup. By pushing each button down in some order would change the tone of the pickup.
If you could hook the amp, jack to a Multi/OHM meter may show resistance changes by pushing the buttons on and off, 1 2 or all 3 at once. Just a guess.
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The basics are there ,just needs a few radical modifications and a ton of patience. ok to learn on perhaps. a spare time mission
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Ian Worley wrote:looks like it's meant to be a lefty, but set up backwards in the pics. Pedal cranks are on the back apron (but so is the knee lever)
Ian,
It could possibly be a special pedal setup for someone right handed but had a leg disability of some sort necessitating shifting the pedals off center like that. I remember Jim Lindsey had wanted something similar after he had his stroke
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