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Jonathan Hart
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Seldom-seen parts for my bastard Stringmaster

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My Dual Six recently adopted an orphaned 8-string neck - something I had wanted to do for several years, but had never seen it done, and had never found a reasonably priced neck. It came with a set of what are most likely Seymour Duncan Antiquities, mounted on a plate with no switch or pot holes; I picked up another plate from a T8 that has holes for both a blade switch and a toggle, with a pair of original pickups dated 1965! 1st question: What did that toggle switch do?

2nd question: Does anyone have a couple of those metal sleeves that go between the necks and hold the connecting rods? Since I only had the two from the Dual Six, I put them on opposite sides of the middle neck, but they could slip a little bit and no longer be level.

3rd question: Has anyone made or seen a 6/8 hybrid before?
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Pretty cool looking rig there, Jonathan. I wonder if that extra hole was for a stutter button.
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David Knutson wrote:I wonder if that extra hole was for a stutter button.
I've seen T8's in the old Fender catalogs that had both the blade switch and the toggle switch, but the only descriptions I've found for the controls are of the earlier push-button switch.
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Jonathan Hart wrote:
David Knutson wrote:I wonder if that extra hole was for a stutter button.
I've seen T8's in the old Fender catalogs that had both the blade switch and the toggle switch, but the only descriptions I've found for the controls are of the earlier push-button switch.
Yes, that plate is from a triple neck from about late 50's onwards. It would have had a 3 position blade switch (1 for each individual neck) and a toggle switch that puts all 3 necks on at once.

In my opinion, Fender never really got the switching right. They should have gone for individual toggle switches.

And, of course, the plate with no holes in it for knobs or switches would be the corect plate for the front neck (furthest from the player, with the volume/tone on the nearest neck and the selecter switches in the middle.
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I assume these are the spacers you need. Unfortunately, I don't have any spares but might help to identify them if anyone has a few laying around in their parts drawer.


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Jeff Mead wrote:In my opinion, Fender never really got the switching right. They should have gone for individual toggle switches.
Before the 8-string showed up, I had a Fender S-1 switch to toggle between the two necks, and 5-way super switch wired up in Deaf Eddie's "5-Tone Tele" scheme - either pickup by itself, or both in parallel or out of phase in series or parallel. I just ordered a Freeway 6-position blade switch to add series in-phase, and a 3-way super switch to switch between necks. I'll still have room for 3 pots, so...maybe an active mid-boost?
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Jeff Mead wrote:I assume these are the spacers you need. Unfortunately, I don't have any spares but might help if anyone has a few laying around in their parts drawer.

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Yeah, that's the ticket!
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Jonathan Hart wrote:I just ordered a Freeway 6-position blade switch to add series in-phase, and a 3-way super switch to switch between necks. I'll still have room for 3 pots, so...maybe an active mid-boost?
I find the traditional tone knob with blend pot on each neck plus individual toggles gets me all the sounds I need (I've never been a fan of that "out of phase" sound) but yours would certainly be a pretty versatile setup and a platform like this is a great opportunity to experiment.
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Jeff Mead wrote:(I've never been a fan of that "out of phase" sound)
Both of the out of phase combinations use a small capacitor as the jumper, so they're more of a "half out of phase" sound. I have no clue what value the cap is - I just wired up alligator clips and kept trying whatever was on my workbench, including a big ass inductor from a Hammond organ vibrato circuit!
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Jonathan Hart wrote:
Jeff Mead wrote:(I've never been a fan of that "out of phase" sound)
Both of the out of phase combinations use a small capacitor as the jumper, so they're more of a "half out of phase" sound. I have no clue what value the cap is - I just wired up alligator clips and kept trying whatever was on my workbench, including a big ass inductor from a Hammond organ vibrato circuit!
Haha - a bit out of a Hammond vib circuit certaily adds to the coolness/mojo factor!!!
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Just to recap - if anyone has two of these laying around, let me know!
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Pretty cool setup, here's a stock triple with the toggle.
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