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Ben Michaels


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2019 6:21 pm    
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I was looking at Doug's site and it says you can change the 1/7 string raise on the RKL to G# instead of G. Is this as simple as tuning it to G# on the rod or is there something that needs to be changed underneath?

I searched on the site and didn't see any posts that specifically mentioned this change.
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Justin Emmert

 

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Greensboro, NC
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2019 5:33 am    
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Most likely you only want that raise on your first string only. I don't know anyone who does it on string 7. You can try just tuning it up. I did it with my Mullen. If not, you may have to move to a different hole on the bell crank.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=350583&highlight=
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K Maul


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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2019 6:06 am    
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I raise 7 F#-G# with a feel half stop at G. Just try tuning the change up. You may not have to do anything else.
Bobbe Seymour had 7 F#-G# on the knee that flatted 2 and 9. That’s an interesting approach too. https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=203326
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2019 7:48 am    
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Justin Emmert wrote:
Most likely you only want that raise on your first string only. I don't know anyone who does it on string 7. You can try just tuning it up. I did it with my Mullen. If not, you may have to move to a different hole on the bell crank.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=350583&highlight=


A lot of players, including Paul Franklin, raise 7 to G#, as opposed to lowering 6 to F#. For a while, I did both, but wanted something else more than raising 7 to G#. If moving to another hole in the bellcrank doesn't work, you might need to increase the travel of the lever.
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Ben Michaels


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2019 9:08 am    
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Thanks for the info guys. I am going to check out the bellcrank and see if there is another hole....I am thinking there should be as it mentions they can be set up with this raise.

My goal is to be able to do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5_94qVKi9c
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Justin Emmert

 

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Greensboro, NC
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2019 2:11 pm    
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Richard Sinkler wrote:
Justin Emmert wrote:
Most likely you only want that raise on your first string only. I don't know anyone who does it on string 7. You can try just tuning it up. I did it with my Mullen. If not, you may have to move to a different hole on the bell crank.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=350583&highlight=


A lot of players, including Paul Franklin, raise 7 to G#, as opposed to lowering 6 to F#. For a while, I did both, but wanted something else more than raising 7 to G#. If moving to another hole in the bellcrank doesn't work, you might need to increase the travel of the lever.


Thanks for the info on PFs copedent Richard. I didn't realize he had that raise on string 7 also. Maybe I'll have a look at doing it on mine one day. Need to think about what I would do with it.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 4:56 am    
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Justin Emmert wrote:
Most likely you only want that raise on your first string only. I don't know anyone who does it on string 7.


I do ! Very Happy Theres ONE !

I don't use it enough, half the time I forget it's there ! 1+7 GO UP together
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 10:30 am    
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Ben Michaels wrote:
My goal is to be able to do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5_94qVKi9c

To do some of the stuff in this video you would need a half-step raise on string 2 in addition to the full-step raise on string 1. Stage One guitars don’t do the half-step raise on 2, as far as I know.

The major 3rd to minor 3rd double stop change in the video on strings 1 & 2 is simple enough on your Stage One, lowering 2 a half-step, picking 1 & 2 together, and then sliding down two frets while releasing the lever. You could also raise string 1 a half step, pick 1 & 2 together, then slide down 1 fret while releasing the lever.
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Ben Michaels


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 2:46 am    
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Everyone thanks for the help! Frank you are right about the stage one. There is no option for a raise on string 2. I am going to try the half step lower workaround you mention.

I really like the sound of the 7th being raised to the same note as the 6th.
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