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Topic: Cabinet screws |
Asa Brosius
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Posted 12 Jun 2019 7:25 pm |
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| Does anyone have information on cabinet screw tension? Specifically possible links to sonic overtones/sustain? I'm thinking neck, key-head and changer mount. |
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Dave Campbell
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 15 Jun 2019 11:58 am
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there are a couple of threads that suggest loosening the neck screws (on your p/p i presume) until they are snugged, but not tight. one poster used the term "finger tight" but i assume they were using a screwdriver.
opinions on the efficacy seem to range from magical to no difference.
i'm gonna go check mine and see! |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 15 Jun 2019 12:05 pm
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"Tightening the neck bolts on an old guitar of mine made a difference in the resonance and loosening them to where they previously were, brought the original sound back. This took place around 1975 on a 1968 Emmons push/pull that had a lot of miles on it. My reason for not recommending it everybody was that I didn’t want someone to try it on a new guitar and perhaps lose their sound and never get it back. It takes an ear that can detect the subtle changes in sound while adjusting the tension and isn’t for everybody, but it does work."
-buddy emmons |
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Asa Brosius
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Posted 15 Jun 2019 1:14 pm
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| Interesting- that's the Emmons quote that got me looking for more information. Thanks Dave- looking at some east coast dates with Mays this fall- would be good to have a steel hang. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2019 8:17 pm Cabinet Screws
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Any time you want to get a precise tightening of any bolt, nut or screw, Go to the precise measurement of torque.
Wheeler makes an inch-pound torque wrench,Available from Midway USA, Designed to use on firearms. Price $49.99 + shipping.
By making a chart for Screw and Bolts torque on a steel guitar would make it easy to bring the guitar back to perfect tone, After making a repair and replacing all fasteners back to a certain tightness/torque. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 17 Jun 2019 1:26 am
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| somewhere i read that bobbe seymour suggested that 25 inch pounds of torque is just about right. awfully hard to measure with a philips screwdriver from underneath your guitar with all of those rods in the way, but crazier things have been done in the pursuit of tone i'm sure. |
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 17 Jun 2019 7:38 am
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I had virtually an identical experience to what Buddy described in that quote, although I'd never seen it at that time. It was a '67 cuttail, and I tightened the screws up really snug, which basically killed the 'life' and overtones IMO. I loosened all back off and then just 'snugged' them down and the sound was back.
There were some scary moments when I wondered if I'd ever get it back to where it was. As for why was I tightening the screws to begin with? Because steel players jack around with anything and everything looking for that magic factor that's going to make them sound better I guess??? |
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