"Oh! The humanity!"

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 7 Mar 2019 2:53 pm

Can you believe this?!?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lap-Steel-Guit ... Swq5FcgXZg

Noah Miller · Post by **Noah Miller** » 7 Mar 2019 3:13 pm

While the replacement parts are clearly recent, this is, after all, similar to the way pedal steels first evolved many decades ago.

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 7 Mar 2019 4:24 pm

Not really. Early modifications made to emulate pedal steels pulled separate strings. This one moves them all which is kind of absurd redundancy, it does the same thing that a bar does. Itâ€™s ridiculous.

Noah Miller · Post by **Noah Miller** » 7 Mar 2019 5:01 pm

Does it? I thought it was just supposed to change the tension on the top strings. It seems like a needlessly awkward design for a conventional guitar vibrato.

Jim Schofield · Post by **Jim Schofield** » 8 Mar 2019 1:04 am

"absurd redundancy" It would seem that way Cartwright but perhaps the user liked some of those techniques that are common with the Tremolo bar rather than just plain vibrato effect.

From memory Noah that Tremolo is a slightly different design to the average so that if a string breaks the rest stay in tune, that could be why it looks a bit odd.

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 8 Mar 2019 1:44 am

Maybe Iâ€™m missing something. Could it be that the term moves individual or a combination of strings and not all six at once?
If it moves all six, maybe itâ€™s for someone with limited â€œbar handâ€ mobility. If itâ€™s an attempt to emulate pedal steel, I think I would opt for a Duesenberg

Jim Schofield · Post by **Jim Schofield** » 8 Mar 2019 3:46 am

Nope, you've got it, those trems do move all six strings at once just like a regular strat trem. I was just pointing out that vibrato is not the only technique used with a trem, like, you can't drop out all the tension with a bar like you can with a trem and slam it back up to tension. That sort of technique might be what the player was after, obviously I am just guessing cause like you my first though was why???

Frank James Pracher · Post by **Frank James Pracher** » 8 Mar 2019 9:42 am

Well.. you could use vibrato with open strings..

Don Barnhardt · Post by **Don Barnhardt** » 8 Mar 2019 8:21 pm

I guess he's leaving himself some wiggle room.

K Maul · Post by **K Maul** » 9 Mar 2019 5:57 am

And only two grand!

Chris Walke · Post by **Chris Walke** » 11 Mar 2019 7:02 am

K Maul wrote:And only two grand!

AND...the upgrades are, um, PROFESSIONALLY installed. Like, by a professional.

Stephen Cowell · Post by **Stephen Cowell** » 11 Mar 2019 9:27 am

Looks like it only does the first two strings... tune to open A, have D on tap, like A+B pedals.

Jim Schofield · Post by **Jim Schofield** » 11 Mar 2019 3:29 pm

It may look like that Stephen because of the bar position but unless Trem King has a model I have not seen that trem does all strings, check them out here Trem King Site

Check out the video on drop D tuning as it shows what they are good at.